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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

That is helpful鈥攖hank you. In your first answer to the convener, you mentioned anonymity. Will you expand on that a wee bit, including on the importance of anonymity and what you mean by it?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Good morning. So far, we have talked a lot about resources and finance, and I understand the importance of that. That said, I would like to take issue, Katie, with what you said at the start about the equally safe fund being depleted and not serving local needs. Frankly, I just do not believe that. Some 拢19 million has been given out to local authorities to work on such needs and on the preventative strategies that you said were not happening. I am just going to take issue with the premise of that. We might argue about the amount of it, but I would say that that fund fits perfectly into what we are trying to do here.

So far, all that I have heard about are barriers to the bill. If we could just go back to the bill that is in front of us, I am unsure whether any of you support its introduction. If we take finances out of the picture for a moment, do you support the previous witness鈥檚 view that there has been a long-standing gap in Scotland? England has a system in which families and victims are served better and that is what we are trying to do here. If you could clarify whether you support the bill, I would appreciate it.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

You would be confident that, with what exists currently, the outcome that the bill proposes could be achieved. In other words, there is a gap that is not filled and you are saying that it could be filled by the existing structures. I am not hearing that, so that is what I am trying to get at. Surely, we need to implement a structure that stands alone, as they have in England.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Is there a danger of a patchy system and a postcode lottery if that happens, with some bodies adhering to guidance and others not doing so? Surely, the people of Scotland should have confidence that they can go to a system if they have suffered a tragic loss.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Thank you鈥攖hat is helpful. Fiona Drouet, do you want to come in on any of that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

My question is for Fiona Drouet. Fulton MacGregor mentioned the film that his constituent produced and your very powerful part in it. In that film, and in your submission, you talk about how you felt let down by the university鈥檚 response and how it had missed some vital signs that something had gone wrong. Is it your understanding that things have changed in the past nine years?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Well done for all the work that you have done. It has made a huge difference.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

I totally understand. Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

Thank you鈥攖hat is really helpful.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Rona Mackay

That is good鈥攖hank you. Dr Scott, I want to come to you on my question about a comparison with the English system. Do you have any comment on that?