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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

I want to ask Superintendent Conway about the police referral system and the factors that are taken into account when deciding what action to take. I will then discuss the Scottish Drug Deaths Taskforce with Neil Richardson.

Superintendent Conway, can you give us an idea of how many referrals to services are made when your officers encounter someone who has been using drugs? I am not asking for an exact figure; I would just like to know the approximate level of such referrals. What do your officers look for? Could you tell us a wee bit about how they make that judgment at the time?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Are you saying that, when you make referrals, you are told that no one is available to take the people concerned? Is that what you mean? How do you know that your partners are struggling?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Thank you for that.

I go back to the fact that the submission from Sacro and Shine says:

“63% of all prison referrals in Shine related to women on remand.”

That is a high number. Some of those women are seriously addicted at that point. Do you agree that prison is not the place for women who have committed low-level offences because of their addiction problem?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

I am conscious of time so I will finish there.

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Thank you, Natalie. That was a really important and informative contribution. Your story and the way that you have turned your life around is inspirational. What you have told us about your experience—in what you have been through and of the system—is very useful to us.

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Would you be able to send the committee the approximate number of referrals that you make?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

I am interested primarily in the drugs figure. I do not know how easy it would be for you to get the other figures. It would be interesting to know, on the drugs side, how many people are being directed to services.

Is it up to each individual officer to make a judgment on whether someone should be referred? Are there guidelines for officers about that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

Neil Richardson, could you give us an update on the work of the Scottish Drug Deaths Taskforce and the pilot schemes that have been running? I do not know whether you know much about the Medics Against Violence pilot programme in Inverness; if you do, could you tell us a wee bit about it, to give us a rounded picture?

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Criminal Justice Committee

Misuse of Drugs and the Criminal Justice System

Meeting date: 27 October 2021

Rona Mackay

I have a question for Leeanne Hughes. The submission from Sacro and Shine says:

“From April-September 2021, 63% of all prison referrals in Shine related to women on remand.”

Those women are usually on remand for low-level offences, and some of them have

“serious drug dependency problems and may also be on a methadone prescription”.

I do not think that such women should be anywhere near prison.

The submission also states that, during their sentence, women’s tolerance to drugs reduces, and problems arise if women who are released use drugs in the same way as they did previously, which can result in overdoses. It says that the problem of women overdosing has been exacerbated during Covid, because of the lack of access to GP services. Could you expand on those points, please, Leeanne?

Leeanne does not seem to be there. Would anyone else like to respond until she returns?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Rona Mackay

My second question was going to be about efficiency savings, but you explained all that in your first answer. I will move on to the action that you are planning to take in response to your work with the Equality and Human Rights Commission on impact assessments. Does that have budgetary implications for SLAB?