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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 May 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

We have to draw our session to a close. I apologise to members who have not been able to get their questions in. I thank the witnesses for their evidence.

At our meeting next week, we will hear from Public Health Scotland about minimum unit pricing for alcohol. That will be followed by an evidence session with the Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport on the Mental Health (National Secure Adolescent Inpatient Service: Miscellaneous Amendments) (Scotland) Regulations 2023.

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

11:58 Meeting continued in private until 12:37.  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

Agenda item 2 is evidence taking on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. Our first panel comprises representatives from trade unions, and I welcome to the meeting Dave Moxham, who is deputy general secretary of the Scottish Trades Union Congress, who is joining us remotely. We are also joined by Cara Stevenson, who is organiser for the women’s campaign unit at GMB Scotland. We hope to be joined by Lilian Macer, who is the regional secretary at Unison Scotland, and who unfortunately has been delayed.

We will move straight to questions. I call Stephanie Callaghan.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

I would like to hear the panel members’ views on the proposals for legal accountability for social care and it being shared between the Scottish ministers and local authorities, which is quite a significant change to what was first proposed in the bill. I come first to Rachel Cackett.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

I am very conscious of time. This session is due to finish in 11 minutes, but members still have quite a lot of questions that they want to ask. If the witnesses are happy to stay until 12 o’clock, that will, I hope, help us to get through more of our questions.

11:45  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Clare Haughey

We continue our scrutiny of the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. The second panel of witnesses that we will hear from today is comprised of representatives of care providers and the voluntary and third sectors. I welcome to the meeting Rachel Cackett, who is the chief executive officer of the Coalition of Care and Support Providers in Scotland; Dr Jim Elder-Woodward OBE, who is the convener of the Inclusion Scotland board and a member of its people-led policy panel; Rob Gowans, who is the policy and public affairs manager of Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland; and Dr Donald Macaskill, who is the chief executive of Scottish Care. Jim Elder-Woodward is supported by Lisa Ehlers from Inclusion Scotland.

We move straight to questions from Tess White.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Clare Haughey

Good morning, and welcome to the 30th meeting of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee in 2023. I have received apologies from Emma Harper. James Dornan joins us as her substitute.

Our first agenda item is to make a decision on taking business in private. Do members agree to take items 5 to 8 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Clare Haughey

Of course.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Clare Haughey

I suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of panels.

09:55 Meeting suspended.  

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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Clare Haughey

Thank you for your statement, minister.

How do you intend to evaluate and monitor the impact of the payment reform?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

Clare Haughey

Agenda item 4 is an evidence session on the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill. We will hear from representatives of local government and integration joint boards. I welcome to the meeting Eddie Follan, who is the chief officer in health and social care at the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities; Eddie Fraser, who is the chief executive of East Ayrshire Council and is representing the Society of Local Authority Chief Executives and Senior Managers Scotland; and Professor Soumen Sengupta, who is the director of health and social care in South Lanarkshire health and social care partnership and is representing the Health and Social Care Scotland chief officers group. We move straight to questions.