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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 May 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ivan McKee

I want to pick up on a point that you touched on, cabinet secretary. You will have heard our discussion with the first panel about risk. The witnesses made the important point that not all RAAC is a problem鈥攖he problem is where it has been badly maintained, manufactured or installed, which is an issue in common with many other building materials. Do you think that there is more work to be done to provide reassurance about that? Public dialogue seems to be in a place where everyone assumes that all RAAC is bad and that there is a critical issue. The point was made by one of this morning鈥檚 witnesses that the narrative is that when it gets to 31 years everything falls down. I think that there is more work to be done to provide reassurance that in the vast majority of cases there is not really an issue.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ivan McKee

If I am hearing you correctly, the catastrophic nature of the failure is at least as significant an issue as the fact that the stuff can fail鈥攁s we know, most materials can fail. It would be interesting to seek confirmation of that, and to understand whether there is data on how many failures there have been and how RAAC compares with alternative building materials.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ivan McKee

Thank you, convener. I am interested to understand the extent to which RAAC is significantly different from other building materials.

Our briefing says that if RAAC is not manufactured, installed or maintained correctly, that can lead to problems, but I suspect that that is probably true of any building material. I would like to understand, from your technical perspective, the extent to which RAAC is fundamentally different from other materials that are used in building. Does it need a different approach to what you would normally expect with buildings? As has been said, there needs to be good maintenance and monitoring of the condition of the fabric. Perhaps Chris Goodier can start on that.

09:15  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ivan McKee

My last question is about the alert that you mentioned鈥攊n 2019, the Standing Committee on Structural Safety advised that all pre-1980 RAAC panels should be considered for replacement. How did Scottish local authorities react to that alert? What work was done? That question goes initially to Peter Watton.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ivan McKee

No, I covered that enough in the earlier session.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ivan McKee

I am the Scottish National Party MSP for Glasgow Provan.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ivan McKee

I think that Martin Liddell wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ivan McKee

A relatively small spend on research would save a much larger number when it comes to monitoring and evaluation.

09:30  

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Ivan McKee

Yes, very briefly. Ailsa, given your comment, I have another question to ask you, although you might not want to answer it. If we were to have such a register, who should be responsible for holding it?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Ivan McKee

I get all of that. We do not want the best to be the enemy of the better. If there are specific things that we can do, we should, of course, do them. There could be a range of reasons for the problems with local authorities in England; they might not necessarily be due to that power. The question stands: in principle, everything else being equal, does the Scottish Government think that there is value in having that power? From what Councillor Hagmann said, it seems that local government would be very happy to have that power alongside everything else that it is looking for.