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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

It is work that will never conclude, because there will always be more to look at, but we will be able to give you an update as sites move through that process. There is a limit to how much we will say up front, because some of that information will be commercially sensitive, as it will include financial figures. However, as we get the sites unblocked, I will be happy to share the information.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

It is a matter of fact that it is a figure that is a high-level estimate. It has come from adding the numbers from local authorities on what they have in their planning systems that has been given planning permission but has not yet been built out. Clearly, the number is dynamic, which I think is the point that the Statistics Authority is making. It is moving, because more units are being given permission and more units are being built on a weekly basis. I absolutely accept that it is a high-level estimate, but that does not take away from the fact that a significant number of units have permission but have not been built out.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

We are always looking for ways to streamline processes. We work closely with Heads of Planning Scotland, the national planning improvement champion and others to do that, and that applies to local development plans as well as the planning system more generally.

I recognise that gate checks are there for a reason, which is to make sure that the plans that come through are robust. It is better to address issues with plans earlier in the process rather than later, when a lot more work could have been put into a plan but evidence is not in place or is missing or there are other reasons why the plan cannot be taken forward to completion.

At the moment, six planning authority plans have passed the gate check, and those plans are being further prepared off the back of that. Another two are at the gate check, and three have been sent back because of insufficient evidence. Work by the planning authorities is on-going to fill the gaps in the evidence.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

I will let officials answer on the specifics in relation to authorities but, when there are issues because authorities are not clear or have misinterpreted what is required, it is important that there is a dialogue to resolve that. If we felt that it was worth putting in place guidance, we would do that, too.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

We are watching the situation closely. From conversations with industry and others, I know that it is more of a challenge for some local authorities than others. I will let officials talk to the provisions that are in place to support the specific issue that you mentioned, but I will say that there is a pipeline of land in place across the country to enable development to take place.

The whole point behind NPF4 is that it is a plan-led system, so you agree up front where you will build and then you build there. Moving away from that takes us back to having speculative opportunities come forward in the middle of the process, which causes problems around the other factors that must be considered.

The planning system must be robust, and all the policies, including the biodiversity and woodland policies that we talked about earlier, and flooding issues, which I am sure that we will come on to talk about, need to be considered in the round. The whole point is that you get the plans laid down, you make sure that there is enough supply in place and then you move forward on that basis.

Fiona Simpson will talk about the specifics of addressing some of the challenges.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

As with everything else that we have talked about, the letter was intended to bring clarity鈥攊n this case, it was to bring clarity to how policy 22, in particular, should be considered. The point that we have made throughout is that NPF4 has been laid out to cover all the different aspects and policies that need to be considered and determined in planning applications. However, if we see the need to give clarification because of how a policy has been implemented, we are very willing and keen to do so to ensure that expectations are more fully understood.

As I mentioned, we are also progressing earlier work in order to do audits of the planning functions at key agencies, including SEPA, to understand specifically how the interplay between what advice SEPA is offering and what the flood teams at planning authorities are looking at is being considered, to ensure that we get the balance right.

Clearly, flood risk is real. For lots of very good reasons, the last thing that anyone wants to do is build somewhere that will get flooded. We are gathering more information all the time about the risks associated with climate change, and the situation is deteriorating over time because of that challenge, which needs to be considered in the round. Getting the balance right is really important, but we are working with all those involved to ensure that we do that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

That is a knock-on effect of the determination that SEPA has made. It is important to recognise that SEPA will take a view, and the planning authority will make the decision. As I said earlier, things are changing, so areas that were not previously at risk of flooding might be now or in the future. On your specific point about individuals who have properties adjacent to land where planning permission has been refused on those grounds, that is outside the planning system鈥檚 scope.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

First, in terms of the premise, nothing has changed on the timelines for local development plans鈥攖he deadline is May 2028. As I said, we are monitoring the situation to understand any risk, and we will work with planning authorities to make sure that they hit the deadline. That has not changed.

I do not know why you think that local place plans would not be included鈥攖here is provision for them to be included. If anything, if local development plans were taking longer, there would be even more scope for local place plans to be included, because there would be more time to do that. As I said, the requirement is for planning authorities to consider local place plans as part of the process.

We have deliberately set quite a low bar in relation to what needs to be in a local place plan. It does not need to be a professionally prepared document; it just needs to be an indication from the community of what is important to it. That gets taken into account as part of the local development plan process.

Any communities that are looking at this should be assured that their local place plan will be taken into account. There is support out there to work with communities on preparing and producing a local place plan. Does Andy Kinnaird want to comment?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

It is a valid point that goes back to what we said earlier about the high-level estimate of 164,000 stalled sites, which is made up of all kinds of units, from very big sites that are not being built over a period of time because there are commercial issues, for example, right down to very small sites that have individual units. The team is carrying out initial stalled sites work to understand the issues across the country. We will start with the bigger sites and work our way down, because that will have the most impact most immediately. That work is on-going and we have seen the first cut of it. We want to understand the issues that are holding up those developments. We encourage local authorities to look at small sites, particularly in rural areas, to try to understand whether there is anything that they can do to help to secure the build-out of those units.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

National Planning Framework 4: Annual Review

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

Ivan McKee

Just to be clear, that is not a function of the planning system; it is a function of SEPA developing advice based on the guidelines that it has to follow to calculate the likelihood of flooding in any particular area. SEPA generates the flood maps and so on that feed into the planning system. In any given situation, the planning system would take a view based on the information that is fed into it, but any solution to the problem does not lie in the planning system.