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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ivan McKee

On the dynamics of pay negotiations, I am sure that you are very well aware of how those operate and that understanding how they are going to play out involves setting expectations. It is an environment in which information that is in the public domain can impact where the negotiations land. It is important that that is taken into account when we are going through that process.

The point that is coming through from your questions is that there are a huge number of variables and it all comes back to the fact that the Scottish Government has to balance its budget at the year end. We have to manage all the variables in a way that allows us to do that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ivan McKee

I thought that that would pique your interest, convener.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ivan McKee

As I said, a number of inquiries are running, including others that we have not mentioned. I looked at the annual and total costs with officials this morning. We can provide the committee with information on their total cost to date, the annual costs, their projected costs and the budget for them going forward.

As has been indicated, the inquiries are given independence to operate, and we are less focused on them than on other areas in which we may be able to drive more immediate results. To be honest, there is probably a broader issue around proceeding with inquiries in a way that recognises their budgetary implications, which clearly arise at the point at which the Parliament makes a decision on them.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ivan McKee

I have taken your job from you, convener.

Motion agreed to.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ivan McKee

Okay.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ivan McKee

If we had not received consequentials to that extent, we would be using more of the reserve. We would potentially be using ScotWind money. There are a lot of moving parts and many of them are demand led, so we would not know the exact the scope of that, but we would have had to review the use of those other sources of funds.

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ivan McKee

They are not forecasting errors. I go back to the point that your colleagues are the first to stand up in the chamber and demand more money for local government. I have lost count of the number of times that that has happened in the past two or three weeks in various debates on the budget or in other portfolios. It is important that those services are funded. However, the intent in the plan is that, as we move into next year, we will be in a position to use the ScotWind money, rightly, to invest in capital projects that help the economy move to net zero. That is the focus.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ivan McKee

On your point about disability payments, as we have indicated, there is quite a lot of modelling and forecasting work behind that. However, your points about understanding the factors that drive take-up and demand are well made—are they a function of work being done in other services or a function of campaigns on take-up? We will come back with more specific details to explain what sits behind that.

On staffing levels, I visited Social Security Scotland in Glasgow last week or the week before to go through where it is in relation to its head count projections, its underlying productivity numbers and its work on automation, systems and process improvement. The short answer to your question is that the saving will be a consequence of Social Security Scotland becoming more efficient at what it does. It is on a journey. As more benefits land, they give it more challenges but also, over time, more opportunities to streamline those processes. Managing that budget reduction will partly be a consequence of that work.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ivan McKee

On the in-year increases, one of the first questions was about where the £60 million for health will go, and the answer was that it will go to health boards to deal with precisely those pressures. I do not think that much else will happen this year, as the last few weeks—three or whatever it is—are all about managing a successful budget balancing exercise. Clearly, budgets for next year will be allocated to health boards to support them in that important work, because we are very conscious of the wide variation in IJBs’ performance on delayed discharge. Ensuring that funding is flowing through to support continued reductions in delayed discharge is a priority.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Ivan McKee

I am not aware of that, but we have to remember that those numbers are compared against forecast numbers, so it depends on how the forecast is calculated.