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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 May 2025
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you. I am sure that we will get into some of the points that you have raised when colleagues ask their questions.

Colin Smyth, do you want to add anything, or have colleagues covered that area?

10:45  

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

It is very helpful—thank you. This committee has been tasked with looking at the SPCB funded bodies, but it is important for us to look at that in the wider context of the landscape of public bodies in Scotland. It is good to have you here today, given your wide remit, although I appreciate what you said about the Accounts Commission. That is an important and interesting clarification and point of emphasis, because one could ask why there is a divide between what you audit and what the Accounts Commission audits. Have you ever considered why everything does not sit with you, as the Auditor General?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

I have a brief supplementary question on that. I appreciate the importance of the points that Sarah Boyack makes. We have heard from the Scottish Human Rights Commission, which has published documentation in recent months, about its concerns about the delivery of policy. We have heard from the Auditor General this morning about how Audit Scotland monitors financial spend, as does the Accounts Commission for local authorities. The SPSO has a role in implementation. I do not discount the points that you have made, which are the reality of the situation. However, as things stand, is it not the responsibility of all the bodies that we have to question and improve scrutiny of implementation?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

I am conscious that colleagues around the table have mentioned the SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee, which I convene. Although the Parliament has been tasked with reviewing the landscape in relation to the bodies that are funded by the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body, some of the points that have been raised relate to bodies across the board and those that are funded by the Government. While that work is under way, the Government must uphold its commitment to establishing a victims commissioner—that was the mandate that it got from people in the election. The work that the Parliament has commissioned regarding existing commissioners does not prohibit, or give any indication regarding, the creation of a victims commissioner. That is an important point of clarity.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Ben Macpherson

Victim Support Scotland and other organisations have argued strongly in favour of the creation of a victims commissioner, so a large constituency of those who support victims and engage with them every day support the creation of a commissioner.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

I am sorry to interrupt—

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

Indeed, but I appreciate that these are all important points, and they are relevant to our inquiry and the debate. Richard Leonard, is there anything else that you want to ask?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

I will now bring in Ash Regan, and I will come back to Lorna Slater if we have time.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

I am not challenging the importance of your question or the way in which you asked it. I wanted to make that point for context.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 27 February 2025

Ben Macpherson

I am conscious that we are straying into the remit of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. I will allow you to answer that question as you wish, but I would be grateful if we could then move on to questions relating to this committee. Perhaps, Professor O’Hagan, if you so wish, you could give an undertaking to engage in written correspondence with Ash Regan and with the equalities committee, as is helpful or appropriate.