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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Ben Macpherson

You talked about taking time. James Withers has said that a 10-year timescale for post-school reform is not unrealistic and that results will not be seen quickly. It is important for everyone to appreciate that. However, that could impact on the momentum. I am interested in what the Scottish Government is doing to build consensus politically across the sector and how momentum will be maintained. You said, rightly, that the review has been widely embraced by different stakeholders, but how do we keep the momentum going?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Ben Macpherson

I absolutely endorse that. The people I grew up with have gone in different directions. There is absolutely a need to change the public consciousness, and I look forward to collaborating with the Government on that.

My final question is about the fact that people who become plumbers or joiners, to use your example, often have interests in many other things as well. The arts are facing a challenge in other parts of the UK, where some degrees or avenues of study and human knowledge are being discussed by some politicians as having less value than more practical qualifications. I have thought for some time that our society and individuals in their learning journeys and wider lives would benefit if practical skills could be combined with an area of the arts that they might want to engage in, whether that is a language or a creative subject such as art history. Has the Government ever considered that? It is not mentioned in the review but, to me, it is a pertinent issue at this time.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Post-school Education and Skills Reform

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Ben Macpherson

That sounds like a good way to progress. I am sympathetic to the point that you made about wanting to take the appropriate time to test for unintended consequences and I appreciate your offer to write to the committee. On top of that, once you have reached conclusions on all the recommendations, even if some of them are to be rejected or implemented in a different way, it would be helpful for the Parliament to know the reasoning for your decision on each recommendation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Ben Macpherson

Dr Brown, I noticed that you were reacting positively to some of the comments that have been made. Do you want to add anything?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Ben Macpherson

Sure. Mr Wilson, do you have anything to add?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Ben Macpherson

Thank you, convener. Good morning. I thank the witnesses for their time.

Before I ask my question, I want to emphasise the points that my colleague Bob Doris raised about urban Scotland. As someone who represents a densely populated urban constituency, I think that the arguments and narrative about quality of place and health and wellbeing benefits are often much more compelling than the wider targets and discussions around the Montreal protocol, all of which can seem quite nebulous to people. Therefore, it is important that my colleague asked questions about the benefits of biodiversity in urban Scotland.

I have some questions about objective 3 in the biodiversity strategy, which is to

“Embed nature positive farming, fishing and forestry”.

Do you have confidence that agriculture, forestry and other land management policies are aligned with, and will support the delivery of, the biodiversity delivery plan? If so, why? If not, why not?

I will focus again on the questions of implementation, which were rightly raised earlier. What needs to happen in practice to ensure that agriculture, forestry and other land management sectors deliver biodiversity gains and that there is a just transition to a more nature-friendly position for farming as a mainstream approach? Does the draft delivery plan support that?

Sarah Cowie, do you want to go first?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Ben Macpherson

Before I go to Bruce Wilson, as my question is focused on alignment and delivery, I will mention the discussion at the beginning of the session about engagement between Government and stakeholders and about the challenges relating to co-ordination across Government, as well as the welcome challenge of broadening biodiversity as a cross-Government objective. If witnesses want to follow up with the committee on that, either in their answers to come or afterwards, that would be useful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Ben Macpherson

Unless colleagues have any supplementaries on objective 3, I will move on to objective 4.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Ben Macpherson

It sounds as if that is quite an important plan to develop at a good pace.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Ben Macpherson

Ailsa Raeburn, do you want to add anything or are you content?