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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 August 2025
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

I was going to say that.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

In that space, the SPCB sets the form and content of annual reports. Has there been much thought about whether those reports can be enhanced or changed in order to support more effective scrutiny?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Welcome back, everyone. Our colleague Ash Regan has now joined us. We move to the last set of questions, on reporting and outcomes—an area that we have discussed previously throughout the process of taking evidence. I will hand over to Ash Regan.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

We will now move to questions on reporting and outcomes—

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

That is helpful. I will hand back to Lorna Slater.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

I am sorry—that is not what I meant to suggest. I know that Bridgeside house is funded by the Scottish Parliament, but if, at some future point, there was co-location in a building that was owned by the Scottish Parliament, the Scottish Government or another public body and did not require a commercial lease, could savings be made? Has that been considered?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

I will come back to you in a minute.

I appreciate the point about wanting different aspects of the public sector to be in different parts of Scotland—that applies to the executive in particular—but I can also appreciate why a lot of the commissioners would want to be geographically located within easy access of the Parliament.

Our visit to Bridgeside house was interesting and helpful, and I welcome the fact that many of the commissioners are located in my constituency. We asked a question during our visit on Tuesday that I have heard being asked previously. I appreciate Jackson Carlaw’s points about the savings that have already been made, but that is a commercially leased building. Are there any public sector buildings that could be utilised to make further savings so long as the perception of independence could be preserved? Has the SPCB asked itself that question, or might it do so when considering the next break in the lease for Bridgeside house?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Operationally, and in many other ways, Bridgeside house seemed to be working effectively when we visited. I hope that I gave that impression.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you. Colleagues will have further questions, but I would just say that, as we have looked into this more deeply, the challenge for us has been that, although we see really rational reasons for the Ethical Standards Commissioner, for example, to be funded by the SPCB rather than the Government, the reasons are less clear in the case of, say, the Patient Safety Commissioner for Scotland and the proposed victims and witnesses commissioner for Scotland. In recent weeks, the Scottish Fiscal Commission has given evidence to the committee; it is very much seen by the Parliament and in the public domain as being independent from Government, but it is nevertheless funded by the Government. It has been an interesting and important discussion for our work, and I thank you for the points that you have made.

Jackson Carlaw, did you want to come in?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

That was really helpful, and it leads on to next area of questioning.