³ÉÈË¿ìÊÖ

Skip to main content
Loading…

Chamber and committees

Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

Filter your results Hide all filters

Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
Select which types of business to include


Select level of detail in results

Displaying 1354 contributions

|

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

As colleagues have no other questions in this area, I will ask one final question. It goes back to our discussion a few moments ago before the suspension, when Richard Leonard and Lorna Slater were asking questions about the powers and functions that the bodies have.

Do you have a view on whether the SPSO or the SHRC are currently set up to take on any additional powers, such as incorporating rights-based commissioners? I am interested in hearing your views on that.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Yes; I have got that feedback. I am just going to suspend the meeting briefly.

10:52 Meeting suspended.  

10:54&²Ô²ú²õ±è;°¿²Ô&²Ô²ú²õ±è;°ù±ð²õ³Ü³¾¾±²Ô²µâ€”&²Ô²ú²õ±è;&²Ô²ú²õ±è;

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

That is helpful. I will hand back to Lorna Slater.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

I am sorry—that is not what I meant to suggest. I know that Bridgeside house is funded by the Scottish Parliament, but if, at some future point, there was co-location in a building that was owned by the Scottish Parliament, the Scottish Government or another public body and did not require a commercial lease, could savings be made? Has that been considered?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

I will come back to you in a minute.

I appreciate the point about wanting different aspects of the public sector to be in different parts of Scotland—that applies to the executive in particular—but I can also appreciate why a lot of the commissioners would want to be geographically located within easy access of the Parliament.

Our visit to Bridgeside house was interesting and helpful, and I welcome the fact that many of the commissioners are located in my constituency. We asked a question during our visit on Tuesday that I have heard being asked previously. I appreciate Jackson Carlaw’s points about the savings that have already been made, but that is a commercially leased building. Are there any public sector buildings that could be utilised to make further savings so long as the perception of independence could be preserved? Has the SPCB asked itself that question, or might it do so when considering the next break in the lease for Bridgeside house?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Operationally, and in many other ways, Bridgeside house seemed to be working effectively when we visited. I hope that I gave that impression.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you. Colleagues will have further questions, but I would just say that, as we have looked into this more deeply, the challenge for us has been that, although we see really rational reasons for the Ethical Standards Commissioner, for example, to be funded by the SPCB rather than the Government, the reasons are less clear in the case of, say, the Patient Safety Commissioner for Scotland and the proposed victims and witnesses commissioner for Scotland. In recent weeks, the Scottish Fiscal Commission has given evidence to the committee; it is very much seen by the Parliament and in the public domain as being independent from Government, but it is nevertheless funded by the Government. It has been an interesting and important discussion for our work, and I thank you for the points that you have made.

Jackson Carlaw, did you want to come in?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

That was really helpful, and it leads on to next area of questioning.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

That was very helpful. Thank you.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Before we move on, to follow up on what has been said, it would be good if the witnesses could say a little more about how the SPCB shares information with committees to support the governance and scrutiny of office-holders, whether through the Conveners Group or otherwise. Do you have any thoughts on how that could be improved, for instance in cases in which there are concerns about performance, how the body is run or its effectiveness?