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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Ben Macpherson

—and people who go into prison without a history of addiction but who are influenced by the environment.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Ben Macpherson

I guess that the challenge is moving from generally to always.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Ben Macpherson

I thank all the witnesses for their time and participation. You have all made really interesting opening remarks, and I want to build on some of those points, particularly what you said at the end of your remarks, Tracey McFall. One of the issues that the committee is probing is the reasons why people use substances in prison. I appreciate that that is a broad question, but do you want to say more about the reasons and contributing factors that are beyond the prison walls, so to speak, as well as within the institution? It would be good to hear your thoughts on those matters.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you, all. Sorry—I see that Dr Rogers wants to come in.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Ben Macpherson

I am curious—witnesses have talked about the lack of consistency of rehabilitation and support inside prisons, and I have heard from my constituents about cases that are similarly concerning. We have talked for years about there being a lack connection on release and a lack of consistency in the support for people when they are released or bailed. What do you think we need to do to create that consistency, collaboration and coherence in relation to the NHS and GPs; housing and local authorities; Social Security Scotland and the Department for Work and Pensions; and third sector support, including the work that many of the witnesses are doing? How do we create that comprehensive package of what people need when they are bailed or released? From everything that you have said, and from what I have heard previously, what others have heard and what has been analysed and published, that package seems so key—not only to help the people who are affected, although that is the most important aspect, but to deal with the issues of overcrowding and to change the position in Scotland in the number of people who are incarcerated.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Ben Macpherson

Does somebody need to hold that coherence together and to drive it?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Ben Macpherson

You are talking about what happens in prisons, but how do we make the process more consistent for people when they are released or bailed?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Ben Macpherson

I appreciate that point. Everyone has their individual needs, and we want to take a person-centred approach, appreciating that there will be local differences, particularly with regard to geography, demography and third sector provision, for example. However, is there a more generic set of minimum requirements that needs to be enhanced or further agreed, to ensure that we do not have a situation of somebody leaving prison and, because there are not the required connections, going into temporary accommodation or being unable to access the prescription drugs that they have had in prison for a condition? I am aware of what local authorities and partnerships do, for example, in the area that I represent, but is there a greater need for consistency across the country?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 4 June 2025

Ben Macpherson

Of course, in most cases, that is applicable to people who have had challenges with addiction before going into prison—