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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

I fully appreciate that installing the grilles is not a panacea, but it is interesting and helpful to understand the impact that it has had. The committee will be interested to know how those considerations move forward beyond that trial.

Mr Mooney, you talked about the challenge on release. Do you want to say more about working with community partners on that challenge? Can more be done with stakeholders on how we support people who are coming out of the estate with addiction and mental health issues?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Kirsten Horsburgh, you talked about what I would argue is a perplexing situation in which we are sending people with addictions to prison, rather than treating them for that addiction. I appreciate that there is a political difference in relation to the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 and its consequences.

You mentioned that people who are already suffering from addiction are going to prison, and you talked about the need for provision for treatment in prison and on their release. However, we have also heard today鈥擨 think that Suzy Calder touched on this point鈥攖hat people鈥檚 drug addiction can be initiated in the estate. I appreciate that it is difficult to quantify, but do you have an idea of how many people already have an addiction as they come into the estate compared with people who develop an addiction during their sentence? Is that data available?

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Can that letter be shared with the committee?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Do you want to say any more on that, Kirsten?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

We turn to questions from Murdo Fraser.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

The Scottish Fiscal Commission is in a Scottish Government-owned building next to St Andrew鈥檚 house but is still very much seen as being independent. That is an alternative example.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Perhaps they could use space in an existing building.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

Welcome, everyone, to the 12th meeting in 2025 of the SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee. I have received no apologies for today鈥檚 meeting, but Ash Regan will join us later, as she is giving evidence to another parliamentary committee this morning.

I am very pleased and grateful to welcome members of the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body and supporting officials to the committee. Today, we have with us our colleague Maggie Chapman, who has responsibility for business support and office-holders, and Jackson Carlaw, who has responsibility for finance and organisation governance. Supporting them is Allan Campbell, head of operations of the chief executive group of the SPCB. I see that everyone is happy to proceed, so we will move directly to questions, the first of which will be from me.

Our witnesses might be anticipating this question, as we have consistently put it to witnesses to start off our evidence sessions, but it gets to the heart of why the committee is undertaking this work. What do you believe to be the purpose of an SPCB-supported body and how does it differ from a Scottish Government-supported body, from Scottish ministers or, indeed, from 成人快手?

When you answer, it might be helpful if you could touch on the following. We have heard evidence that SPCB-supported bodies are often created when independence from Government is required for the body to fulfil its functions鈥攊n other words, when it is important for the body to be perceived as independent. However, we have also taken evidence from the Scottish Government-funded bodies, many of whom are seen to be independent of the Government鈥攊n fact, you could argue that all of them are鈥攁nd are not funded by the SPCB, but by the Scottish Government. In addition, then, do you believe that the SPCB accountability model offers greater independence than Government-funded bodies?

Those are the questions that we have been wrestling with and I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on them. I do not know who wants to go first. Will it be you, Maggie Chapman?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

We accept the challenge. Maggie Chapman, do you want to add anything?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Ben Macpherson

That was very helpful.