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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

So, the process is not robust enough right now.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

That should be done in the early stages, when they feel vulnerable. Again, overcrowding is a key factor.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

Do you feel that all of that could be more robust than it is right now?

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

I was just reflecting on the fact that there are actors who are trying to pull people into addiction at the same time that services are trying to fill their time with other activities, including rehabilitation. That is important for us to consider.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

There is also the difference that preventative spend can make through savings in the criminal justice system more widely.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

Good morning, panel members. Thanks for your evidence so far. I want to go back to areas of questioning that were put earlier. Haydn Pasi has talked compellingly about the need to have good use of time in the prison estate, and there has been a lot of discussion across the panel about how people are supported in the community when they are released from custody.

Another element that feels worth emphasising, and I would be interested in your reflections on it, is that, although people鈥檚 time needs to be filled and used effectively towards recovery and wellbeing in custody and on release, there are actors in the community and in the estate who are looking to fill that time differently for their own interests鈥擨 am talking about organised crime, in particular鈥攖o get people addicted or into debt, or to keep them on that pathway if they already are in that situation. However, we have not heard any reflections on that challenge today, and I wonder whether you want to add anything on that point.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Ben Macpherson

I was interested to hear the reflections about the importance of the third sector, and I note what was said about the appropriateness of having differentiated services available for different places. The discussion about the importance of the third sector highlighted the point that, in creating joined-upness鈥擨 think that that was the phrase that was used鈥攔esourcing and sustainability of funding are perhaps issues. We are committed, across the Parliament, to a preventative approach to numerous issues, including when it comes to reducing offending and reoffending. How impactful could an additional allocation of resource on a sustainable basis be for the third sector in facing the challenges that we are considering today? Haydn Pasi and Hamish Robertson have talked about that in particular.

Criminal Justice Committee

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Ben Macpherson

First, I reiterate what the convener said about how we all want to tackle domestic abuse in the communities that we represent and in our country as a whole. I commend you for undertaking work to try to improve the situation.

Of course, as a committee, our job is to scrutinise the proposed legislation and its potential impact. I am aware that you said in your opening remarks that your consideration of the bill began in 2022, soon after the 2021 election, and the bill was introduced in late 2024. Is that correct?