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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 August 2025
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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Ben Macpherson

Is there any discussion in the New Zealand Parliament about the number of Crown entities? We are being asked to look at specific bodies that our Parliament is responsible for. Of course, there is a plethora of Government bodies, as well as commissioners. What is the public discourse in New Zealand, and does the Parliament explore, take interest in and consider the issue regularly?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Ben Macpherson

I have a few final questions, Dr Wilson. I appreciate that you are a busy person in a busy place, but I presume that, ahead of the meeting, you saw some of what we have been considering and what our set-up is in Scotland. Did anything come to mind when you looked at that? Did you find anything interesting, different or perplexing about our set-up?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Ben Macpherson

Please do.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Ben Macpherson

That is fascinating. Thank you for sharing all that. I will hand over to my colleagues to pick up those points.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Ben Macpherson

How does an officer of Parliament work along with the rest of the legislature to scrutinise and hold the Executive to account?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Ben Macpherson

Yes, please.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Ben Macpherson

It is interesting that, because of the criteria and processes that have been in place since 1989, New Zealand鈥檚 Parliament has kept the officers of Parliament very tight and structured, whereas, looking at the list of Crown entities, I see that they seem to have developed in a less streamlined and systematic way.

I want to go back to one of your earlier answers. It would be good to get a little more clarity on the process that is involved when there is a proposal for a new officer of Parliament. Would a proposal go to the Officers of Parliament Committee before it was legislated for, and would it be considered again by the committee once legislation was introduced? During any scrutiny processes, would subject committees refer to the criteria as well? You spoke earlier about how some proposed officers of Parliament have been considered by the Environment Committee, for example. Would subject committees apply the criteria in the same way?

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SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Ben Macpherson

Thank you. That is a really helpful clarification. I hand back to Lorna Slater to ask questions on support and resources for officers of Parliament.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Ben Macpherson

That is helpful. Finally, is there anything that you want to express or emphasise to us that you think might be helpful and that you have not had a chance to mention in relation to how things operate in New Zealand?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee [Draft]

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 3 April 2025

Ben Macpherson

Absolutely.