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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Grangemouth鈥檚 Industrial Future

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

Some of the things that I want to ask about have been touched on, but I would like to go into a bit more detail. A broad range of things needs to be done in relation to the project willow opportunities, some of which are complicated and some of which are quite prosaic鈥攕ome of it boils down to rubbish. With plastics collection, you need to make sure that the materials are disaggregated. With something as complicated as biorefining, it is important to make sure that you have secure feedstocks.

Some of that will come down to things that the Scottish Government will need to do in relation to regulating and co-ordinating. I therefore ask the cabinet secretary to summarise what the Scottish Government needs to do and to set out what work is currently under way. In relation to project willow, it is clear that feasibility studies in all the areas need to be concluded by 2026 if we are to stay on track. Will the cabinet secretary outline her understanding of the Scottish Government dependencies, the work that needs to be done and the work that is under way so that we get to the point at which those feasibility studies can be concluded?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

Please do.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Grangemouth鈥檚 Industrial Future

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

On a similar note, I will sidestep some of the points around aggregation, because I know that Lorna Slater would like to raise those. Instead, I will zero in on the things that are Scottish Government dependencies and drill into a little bit more detail there.

Policies on waste projects and the requirement to increase plastic collection, separation and aggregation clearly fall within the purview of the Circular Economy (Scotland) Act 2024. I would like to understand that situation in a little more detail. What level of resource is looking at those issues? When do you expect that work to conclude? What do you expect the outcomes to be? Will they involve regulations being made under the 2024 act? Will further primary legislation be required? When might we expect clarity about those outcomes and what the Scottish Government needs to do?

Clearly, if you are going to do work in those areas, you need a secure supply chain. However, no investor is going to come in if they do not know whether they are going to get the feedstocks to do the stuff that they want to do.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Grangemouth鈥檚 Industrial Future

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

Would there not need to be such changes, though? One of the things that occurs to me on that, especially with regard to separation and aggregation, is that, during the passage of the 2024 act, there was a lot of discussion about whether we were taking the right route compared with Wales, for example, where there is standardised collection, which increases the level of collection and potentially allows you to do other things. It strikes me that, if every local authority is doing its own thing, that makes it harder to achieve what you want to achieve. Presumably, an investor will want a very particular kind of plastic, so you cannot just throw a plastic bag in with a plastic bottle鈥擨 am making this up, but I am guessing that that is the sort of thing that is important. Making sure that a facility gets absolutely the right kind of feedstock is going to be critically important, and there will probably need to be a degree of standardisation in order to deliver that. Surely that requires regulation. Did we miss an opportunity in that regard during the passage of the 2024 act?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Grangemouth鈥檚 Industrial Future

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

Forgive me, but I am asking the current minister.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

We seem to have some interference on the audio.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

What additional powers, abilities or capacities will the legislation give you that you do not currently have, and what will you have to do that you do not currently do, not including reports that you will have to produce or meetings that you will have to go to? What outcomes will you have to deliver that you do not currently deliver?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

You are saying that you are already carrying out the work and you probably already have the plans, but you might just have to retitle them. Is that what you are saying?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

I have a brief follow-up question. You will have to undertake additional activities and co-ordination. You have mentioned community planning partnerships, which already exist. If the cabinet secretary, in a letter of direction to Scottish Enterprise, said that you must do certain things, including engaging in community wealth building and undertaking a co-ordinating role, you would have to do that, would you not?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 June 2025

Daniel Johnson

That would be in a letter of direction, so that would not require legislation, would it?