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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 December 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Consumer Scotland

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

I have two or three supplementary questions. We do not have the annual report in front of us, but I have quickly jotted down the numbers that we were provided with. Could you clarify your annual income? I see 拢2.4 million coming from the Scottish Government and the levy bringing in somewhere north of 拢4.5 million a year. What is the actual figure?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Consumer Scotland

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

In the most recent annual report, you said that you spent 拢444,000 on work by third parties, which includes CAS and Advice Direct Scotland. What was the figure for last year?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Consumer Scotland

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

If you bring in 13 staff, on a baseline of 28, that is an increase of almost 50 per cent. Could you explain that 50 per cent increase in capacity and the breakdown of those roles?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Consumer Scotland

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

Okay. Thank you for your time. With that, I draw the public part of the meeting to a close.

12:12 Meeting continued in private until 12:28.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Interests

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

Good morning, and welcome, everyone, to the 29th meeting in 2025 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee. Before we hear from Consumer Scotland under our main item of business, under agenda item 1 I invite Sarah Boyack, who is joining the committee, to make a declaration of interests should she wish to do so.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Interests

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

Thank you. I note that we have received apologies from Lorna Slater, who is unable to be with us today.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

We are pleased to be joined by Kate Forbes, the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Gaelic, alongside Scottish Government officials Colin Cook, who is the director of economic development, and Aidan Grisewood, who is the director of jobs and wellbeing economy.

We will launch straight into questions after I open with an observation.

Over recent weeks, we have been taking evidence from enterprise agencies and the Scottish National Investment Bank. It has struck me that they are all clearly doing lots of good work in relation to attempting to take direct action and promote economic outcomes, but I question how well co-ordinated that activity is, because they all seem to be reporting on different metrics and in different ways.

If we compare ourselves internationally, 1,300 people work for Scottish Enterprise alone, which compares to the around 700 people who work for Business Finland. Enterprise Singapore employs around 2,000 people, which is slightly less than the total number of people who work across Singapore鈥檚 enterprise agencies.

Could we do a better job of joining up such activity? Do we get a good bang for our buck from our enterprise agencies?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

The skills gap that Gordon MacDonald and I have identified during the preceding set of questions is our ability to lip-read.

I hand over to Gordon MacDonald.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

Given the centrality of productivity, it strikes me that, for the sake of a day, the report鈥檚 publication date could be looked at.

I recognise that the numbers cover a 20-year period, but you might have seen the article in the Financial Times in June that focused on London鈥檚 productivity over the past four years. I will fully declare that it is based on Office for National Statistics data and, unfortunately, its regional breakdowns take some time to come through, so it only covers 2019 to 2023. The article focused on the fact that London鈥檚 productivity decreased in that period, but it also very clearly showed that Scotland鈥檚 labour productivity growth was fourth from bottom, at 0.25 per cent, narrowly ahead of Wales, the West Midlands and London but behind the north-west, which led the pack with almost 2.5 per cent growth.

The point is that, yes, you can look at a longer period, but more recently, the regional comparisons appear to show some issues with Scotland鈥檚 productivity. First, do you recognise that? Secondly, to come back to the point about context, should we look more closely at Scotland鈥檚 productivity growth compared to that of other regions and nations of the UK?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Daniel Johnson

I do not disagree with that, but can I press you a little bit on that point? I must fully declare that I am slightly obsessed with the regional breakdowns, because they raise the question whether things are going on in other places that we could and should learn from.

There are some reasons not to talk about Manchester, given what has happened in recent days, but there are lessons to be drawn from what they are doing there. Should the Scottish Government use some of those comparisons鈥攚ith Manchester, Northern Ireland or Wales鈥攆or both positive and negative insights?