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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 December 2021
Daniel Johnson
Indeed; that is the only reason that I pressed the point. It is highly important.
I am conscious of time, but I have one last question, which is relatively broad. I would like to get the cabinet secretary鈥檚 response to Stephen Boyle鈥檚 comments, which were issued with the audited accounts last week. In reference to the Covid funding in 2020-21, he said:
鈥淲hile there is some high level details about how this money was used, the government needs to be more proactive, open and transparent with the provision of this important detail.鈥
Critically, it strikes me that the budget is a balancing act between business as usual, immediate response to Covid and recovery. That is difficult, and to do it effectively, you need transparency, not just over what you have spent in the past, but on an on-going business basis. As well as responding to Stephen Boyle鈥檚 comments, can you say how the Government will track the Covid spend between those three poles?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 December 2021
Daniel Johnson
I would not call it that, Mr Carlaw, but you get the broad theme.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 December 2021
Daniel Johnson
I rather suspect that, if Douglas Lumsden was asking questions after me, he would reflect that local government would like multiyear budgets and predictability just as much as the Scottish Government would, but I will move on.
On the point about growth, and especially income tax, the big surprise from the Fiscal Commission鈥檚 report, in a sense, is that the reconciliations were a lot more detrimental than expected. Many of us were expecting them to be positive, rather than negative. Figures 3.16, 3.18 and 3.19 in the commission鈥檚 report deal with income tax changes. This was touched on by Liz Smith, but it is worthy of further interrogation. I am looking at the change in pay as you earn鈥擯AYE鈥攊n terms of mean pay and of total pay. It strikes me that there is more going on than has been alluded to.
Some of the analysis that was presented by the Government was that, as ever, Scotland is lagging behind London and the south-east, but the analysis that is presented in the report would suggest that the situation is actually significantly worse than that鈥攖he comparison is not just with London and the south-east. Critically, one would expect some of the points that you made about upper pay bands to apply equally to other regions, such as the north-east and north-west of England and Wales, yet Scotland is lagging behind on most of those measures. I would be interested to hear your analysis of that.
Professor Graeme Roy and others have highlighted the issue of labour participation rates for younger and older cohorts. Is that not a big problem? Should we not pay much more attention to labour participation and ensure that we are putting people into the right sectors, especially at a time when there are labour shortages? A glass-half-full view is that that is an opportunity to get people into better paid jobs.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 December 2021
Daniel Johnson
Yes but, frankly, you can look at the other cuts as well. The two other perspectives that the SFC provides show roughly the same picture.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 December 2021
Daniel Johnson
I am almost tempted to start by asking what text messages the cabinet secretary has had, as she said that an hour is a very long time at the moment. However, I will not ask her to divulge that.
I am interested in going back to the points that the convener and Liz Smith raised about the Scottish Fiscal Commission鈥檚 report and asking the cabinet secretary to extrapolate. I asked the Scottish Fiscal Commission representatives this question as well, when they were in front of the committee. Figures 2.3 and 2.4 in the commission鈥檚 report, 鈥淪cotland鈥檚 Economic and Fiscal Forecasts December 2021鈥濃擨 do not expect the cabinet secretary to recall what those say鈥攕et out the tax net position and forecast the social security net position and new payments. Combining the numbers for 2026-27 for both those lines gives a tax net position of a deficit of 拢355 million, and social security represents 拢764 million of additional commitments and spend. That would indicate鈥攊f you accept those projections鈥攖hat a sum of 拢1.1 billion to 拢1.2 billion would need to be found from other budgets.
Do you accept those projections? I accept that the issue goes beyond this budget, and it probably goes beyond the spending review in the new year. However, it is certainly on the horizon of this Parliament, and it suggests that some quite difficult in-line changes between budget lines will need to be made in the coming years. Is that a fair analysis of those forecasts?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 December 2021
Daniel Johnson
No鈥擨 kind of agree. Basically, income tax and social security bills are outwith your control in some manner or means and, if they put pressure on your budget, they will force you to manage budget lines elsewhere that are in your control, and that will be the dominant feature of the comprehensive spending review and the budgets in this session. That is what I am trying to get at.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 December 2021
Daniel Johnson
That is helpful. I will add one point. There is also a question mark over the timings of some of those publications; timing them better could help with the maturity of the debate, and I am happy to discuss that in the future. I could go on, but in the interests of time, I will finish there.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 December 2021
Daniel Johnson
Forgive me, but, in a sense, that response just continued the description of the problem rather than providing analysis.
If we look at figure 3.19 in the SFC鈥檚 report鈥攖his is directed more at the cabinet secretary than at Lucy O鈥機arroll鈥攚e see the particular problem in north-eastern Scotland. That is understandable, given the situation in the oil and gas industry. However, the issue is that no Scottish region performs better than the UK average. Indeed, no Scottish region performs better than Wales or Northern Ireland, which are devolved Administrations. Given that we have the levers, one would hope that Scotland as a whole would perform better than the UK average. At the very least, one would hope that some Scottish regions would do that, but they do not. Indeed, many of the regions that I have identified have exactly the same demographic problems and precisely the same issues with the legacy of deindustrialisation as Scotland has.
What is the analysis? Why is Scotland lagging behind? More important, why is every Scottish region lagging behind the UK average and the other devolved nations? Is that not a critical question that the Scottish Government must have a handle on?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 December 2021
Daniel Johnson
I have one additional suggestion. It is 2021, but the shop sells no items online. I gently suggest that that opportunity should not be overlooked. Likewise, if you were to find an MSP who had particular expertise in retail, you might want to ask them whether they could provide any observations.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 21 December 2021
Daniel Johnson
Absolutely. I speak out of a sense of public duty.