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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mairi Gougeon

Again, that is because there is already reference to the good food nation plan and how we give consideration to that in the Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Act 2024. It is just that the reference has not been duplicated.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mairi Gougeon

I do not think that more time would necessarily have assisted in that. We have also faced criticism in relation to the time taken to develop the plan, but, since the consultation that we undertook on the specified functions last year, our understanding of how it would work in practice has been evolving.

Ultimately, this is about how we put the good food nation plan and its outcomes into practical effect across different policy areas, and it is about how we work within Government to ensure that it has the necessary impact.

When we look through all the comments that have come from different stakeholders, we see that some stakeholders wanted a broader duty to apply. We tried to get the balance right between it not being too broad and becoming a tick-box exercise, and identifying areas that people felt might otherwise be excluded. We have tried to strike the right balance.

As I outlined in my response to Alasdair Allan, the instrument provides a strong starting point for us, because we can only build on it from here.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mairi Gougeon

A number of different things can be done in that regard. First, we will be open to any further suggestions for additions that people feel might be required in the future. Given that this is a novel approach, we need to embed it and see how it is working. The good food nation team will undertake monitoring, and the mechanisms that are established for that will be important.

There will be review points for the 2022 act, when issues can be picked up through evidence taking or scrutiny of the plan, or through committee recommendations. If any suggestions emerge from the committee, stakeholders or the Scottish Food Commission at any point, we will be open to considering them.

In our engagement, a good piece of work has been done explaining to stakeholders a bit more about how we work in Government and how the specified functions and the have-regard duty are intended to work in practice.

We are open to that consideration and scrutiny in the future, and to any recommendations that might be made.

As I say, we have covered the most critical areas in the good food nation plan as it stands, and we have captured the critical functions as well as the wider description. I am more than happy to keep the committee engaged on how the monitoring is progressing in addition to at the specific review points that are set out in the legislation.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mairi Gougeon

There is already that engagement—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mairi Gougeon

I absolutely appreciate that. Those discussions have been held with my team, and I do not know whether any of them would like to add anything. I think that that has been covered.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mairi Gougeon

Yes. The Scottish Food Commission has a specific role, which is set out in the legislation but it has no specific role in relation to the have-regard duty. As I outlined earlier, if the commission wants to do any work on that or if it has any suggestions about areas that we should consider in the future, we would be open to any of those recommendations, but its specific duties and functions do not relate specifically to that area.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mairi Gougeon

Again, it is not possible for me to set out a timeframe, because it will depend very much on how the situation evolves. As I outlined, we hope that the regulations will future proof things to a certain extent, given that the descriptions cover a broader area that will include the development of future policy. Although the SSI has not yet been approved, there has been on-going engagement and dialogue with the good food nation team and other policy areas across the Government in relation to the development of some key areas, in order to ensure that the plan and its outcomes are given that consideration.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mairi Gougeon

I do not believe so. We consulted on the measures a long time ago, and so much work has gone on in both developing the plan and considering the matters that we have been discussing. It is important that we brought forward the draft regulations when we did. I can only repeat what I said about the approach that we have taken and about striking the balance.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mairi Gougeon

I would have to look for advice on what is set out in the legislation on our bringing the regulations forward.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Mairi Gougeon

In some areas, such considerations are already picked up in specified functions elsewhere. I outlined that in my letter in response to the committee, specifically on climate change and some areas of social security. We have picked up the areas where there is a direct link to food. We did not want to duplicate what exists elsewhere, but we have picked up on the key areas that are referenced in the plan, and I believe that we have covered them through the descriptions and functions that we have set out.

I am not saying that those areas are not important; they are all completely interlinked, and we reference that in the good food nation plan. There is wider engagement between teams in recognition of the interlinked nature of those various policies.