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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Again, I do not have that information to hand, and I would have to check that with APHA. As far as I am aware, it has been dealing with a number of cases over the past couple of years, some of which are still on-going.

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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

There is a lot to unpack in that question, so I will try to work through it as best as I possibly can. We touched on that issue at last week鈥檚 evidence session on fisheries management plans. A number of pieces of work are going on in the area.

First of all, I recognise the concerns that have been expressed to the committee on the issue, and I am obviously concerned by the evidence that the committee has received. I would point out that we have asked the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission to do some work on the welfare of cleaner fish; I am not too sure of the exact timescales for that work, but I am happy to furnish the committee with that information as soon as it becomes available, or when I have an idea of the timescales and what the work will look like. It is appropriate that we handle the matter in that way, and that we get the recommendations from the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission and then see what improvements can be made in the area.

You touched on recommendation 27 in the report. Since the report was published, a number of different measures have been introduced. First, there were the voluntary measures, which were introduced in 2020 and became mandatory in 2021. What was required under those measures was the collection of additional data on the number of wrasse caught, with a requirement to take part in surveys in order to build the evidence base. We are still working through and reviewing that data from 2023, but I think that we are content with what we have seen through the mandatory measures. However, that does not mean that the work stops, especially given the further evidence that we have been in receipt of since then.

I covered this at last week鈥檚 committee meeting, but we are also awaiting advice from NatureScot on the back of the evidence that we have received about the potential impacts on special areas of conservation to enable us to undertake an appropriate assessment under the habitats regulations. I just wanted to highlight the fact that a number of pieces of work are under way so that we can try to get to grips with the issues and address them in the best way possible.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I appreciate that it seems like a long time. However, again, a consultation on the new standard had been held in relation to that. The timescale that was set was believed to be a reasonable timeframe within which to allow the industry to adjust.

As the convener mentioned, other innovations and technologies can be considered as part of that. However, given the impact of the new standard, it was felt that that would be the appropriate timeframe.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I hope that I illustrated in my opening comments just how important the salmon industry is to our economy. I mentioned the GVA figure of more than 拢300 million, and the around 12,000 jobs that it provides throughout the supply chain. I do not think that there is a constituency across Scotland that does not have some element of either an aquaculture business or its wider supply chain within it. The extent of that is very broad in its impact.

The industry provides well-paid jobs in some of the most rural parts of Scotland, particularly in our island communities. I know that some of those points came through strongly when the committee heard from the industry about the impact of that that it sees locally. The industry provides a huge amount of value through those jobs and the wider supply chain. It is of great economic value and it provides a lot of community benefit for rural and island communities across Scotland.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

Again, we support the industry in its efforts to reduce mortality鈥攖hat is a given鈥攊ncluding through the scientific work that we undertake. I have talked already about some of the examples of the funding that we have provided and the work that is under way. Of course we work with industry to do that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

With regard to downsizing, as the committee heard in the response from Charles Allan, the causes of the mortalities that we have seen recently do not relate to the stocking or the biomass, so why would farms be downsizing? It always comes back to the cause of the mortality and how that can best be addressed. I do not think that downsizing or closing businesses would address the causes, when we are dealing with the wider environmental challenges.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I would be happy to provide the committee with that information as soon as it becomes available. I appreciate the concerns that Rhoda Grant expresses about the potential timescales, but this is a new process that we are working through, so it is important that we take the time to get it right, to do the evaluation and to see what further roll-out could potentially look like from there.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I cannot comment on that, because I do not deal with that area. I presume that that would be led by the planning minister, who will make a determination. Again, it is not for me to comment.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

I will hand over to Hazel Bartels, who will be able to say a bit more about that.

To touch on your initial point first, I absolutely agree with what you say in respect of how we are supporting the wider industry. There is the farmed fish health framework and the work that we are taking forward through that, which includes work on mortalities. I have touched on the work that SAIC has done in relation to algal blooms; that was an important piece of work. We are providing SAIC with funding of 拢1.5 million up to 2026, and fish health priorities are key in the work that it will be taking forward and focusing on.

In relation to microjellyfish, I am aware that there are other technologies being used elsewhere that could be used in Scotland to try to help alleviate the issues in that respect. Hazel, would you like to add any more information on that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Mairi Gougeon

First, we need to make sure that regulation is proportionate to what we need. I believe that the information that we get right now is suitable for those purposes and is provided in an open and transparent way. As far as I am aware, the information on mortality that is published by the industry in Scotland is more transparent, and there is more of it, than is the case in any other nation.

Earlier, I mentioned the work that was undertaken through the farmed fish health framework on trying to identify the causes of mortality. It identified ten overarching categories, with a view to standardising the reporting across farms. As a result of that important work, there has been an improvement in the data that is collected, because it has ensured that there is consistency in reporting.

I recognise that further improvements could still be made in how the overall data is presented. Right now, we are still presenting the data in four different ways: the industry presents its mortality levels, the marine directorate publishes our information annually, the FHI reports information, and SEPA does so, too. That is something that we have discussed, and I think it would be helpful for us to provide an explainer of how all the different categories of information are used. I recognise that further work needs to be done there.