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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Mairi Gougeon

You can see from the published budget how our spending for agricultural funding is used. George Burgess may have information about the specific 拢60 million.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Mairi Gougeon

That is the point that George Burgess is making. The way in which that money is returned to the portfolio would be subject to my discussions with the Deputy First Minister. We are yet to discuss that. The 拢33 million that you refer to came up in a previous discussion. We are still to agree on how that will be returned to the portfolio. Because ring-fenced funding is ring fenced, it must be returned to the portfolio.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Mairi Gougeon

We know that the agri-environment climate scheme largely delivers on its objectives. It has been a really important scheme for our farmers. I emphasise that that is where we are currently working. The national test programme is in place to offer an incentive for businesses, if they are not doing so already, to look at their performance in relation to carbon audits and soil testing. We have also provided funding this year for animal health and welfare plans, and we want to expand that in the future. It is important that individual businesses get their own baseline information to see how they can improve from that point.

Funding does not come only from that scheme. You will be aware, as I am when I visit farms and crofts across the country, of the different actions that are being undertaken and the work that is already under way to reduce emissions and enhance nature. The coming agriculture bill will set out the overall powers that are needed to establish a framework for future payments, and there is more detail to come about that.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Those are huge concerns going forward, because we have no certainty on what the funding will be beyond 2025. As much as we can set out our thinking about what a future framework might look to deliver, we do not have clarity about the funding for various schemes in the future. We are still trying to engage with the UK Government in that conversation in order to get clarity and certainty but, unfortunately, those discussions have not taken place.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Mairi Gougeon

No, because it is not possible to say that. Without having a budget and without knowing what will happen over the course of the next year, we do not know what those potential savings might be.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Craig, do you want to come in?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Mairi Gougeon

On the point about AI and how we utilise new technology, you are absolutely right; I am sure that that will be part of the consideration that is happening right now in relation to the science and innovation strategy and how we can utilise the advances in technology.

We are not currently considering a moratorium, because we have undertaken the work on the future catching policy and published the outcome of the consultation, and I think that we have opportunities through that route. Tackling discards is a complex issue鈥攖here were around 385 exemptions to the initial rule that made it hard to comply with. In the future catching policy, therefore, we set out what was essentially a way of tailoring the policy to the different parts of our fishing industry in order to simplify it and make it more transparent and easier to comply with. That piece of work has been important, and I think that it will make a significant difference.

I believe that that work is currently being undertaken by the fisheries management and conservation group, which is considering in more detail how we can develop the policy and take it forward. I think that that will be the key to getting to grips with those issues.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Yes.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Mairi Gougeon

It has not been published yet.