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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 June 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Mairi Gougeon

I will give a bit more detail on that. As I outlined in my opening comments, the instrument is, in essence, split into two parts. The definition of ice wine will not really have an impact on producers here, because it is not made in Scotland. It is quite a niche product that is, I think, largely produced in countries such as Canada and Germany.

From the consultation responses that we have received, it seems that there will be no impact in relation to the definition. Obviously there will be an impact on producers that use artificially frozen grapes, as they will no longer come under that definition, but, again, that will not affect our industry in Great Britain as far as I am aware. Perhaps Kevin Matheson has more to add on that.

The changes that are being proposed to oenological practices have been broadly welcomed, and there has been a positive reaction to them. They have already been implemented in the EU, where they have been seen as benefiting exporters and bottlers and encouraging innovation. Again, I do not know whether Kevin Matheson wants to add to that or whether I have adequately covered it.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Mairi Gougeon

To be clear, I note that the ceiling was set in 2008, but you are correct that the last time that the levies were increased was in 2010. However, the levies are set annually and I have to approve them. It is up to QMS to propose and consult on any changes to the levies.

I agree that it has been a long time, which is why it is only right that we consider the ceiling rates and why we have made the proposals for the committee鈥檚 approval. A lot has happened in that time. We are all seeing and experiencing the impact of inflation and the industry has faced some sizeable challenges over the past few years. That is why it is right that we look to increase the ceilings but also ensure that we future proof those rates so that, should QMS want to raise the levy and should levy payers ultimately agree to that after consultation, we have the ability and flexibility for it to do so.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Absolutely. You raise a really important point. It is important that we do not conflate or in any way confuse the different roles and responsibilities in relation to this. As I have said, we have the responsibility of laying the SSI in relation to setting the levy ceilings. However, it is up to QMS, if it wants to raise the levy, to have that consultation and discussion with its levy payers and to put forward those proposals to me, ultimately, for approval.

I am sure that the committee will agree that QMS plays a hugely valuable role in marketing and promoting red meat and in everything else that it does for the red meat industry. I have seen at first hand, through the different trade fairs that QMS attends, what it does in relation to exports and the value of its promotion to the red meat sector, which equates to tens of millions of pounds annually.

The strategy that QMS is consulting and engaging with its members on at the moment shows it to be driving forward sustainability for the red meat sector as well as considering a number of exciting projects. However, it is up to QMS to have that discussion with its levy payers to show exactly what it is doing on their behalf and why that role is so critical.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Mairi Gougeon

I am sorry, but I do not understand what you mean.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Michelle Colquhoun has the list.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Mairi Gougeon

The NFUS and the SAMW.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Yes, that is absolutely right. In response to both points, I would say that, if any proposal for an increase in rates were to come to me, I would expect to see evidence that QMS had consulted and engaged widely with its members and levy payers about the proposed increase and what that levy rate would be. That is the very least that I would expect.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Mairi Gougeon

It was to enable us to bring the instrument forward. As I said when I set out the process, it was important to bring it forward to enable time for scrutiny of the ceilings and to enable QMS to undertake the engagement work that it has to do.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Mairi Gougeon

I am sure that we would have those discussions with QMS. Again, I think that we are jumping automatically to a negative situation, and I do not think that we will be in that position. We have a very strong working relationship with QMS, and I know that QMS has that kind of same relationship with its levy payers, so that engagement from its side is important. I do not imagine that we would end up in that situation, to be honest.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 November 2023

Mairi Gougeon

Yes, you are absolutely right. I agree with everything that you have just said about Quality Meat Scotland. This is a discussion that it needs to have. You are absolutely right that the instrument is technical; it just raises the ceiling, not the levy itself, because that requires a discussion between QMS and its levy payers.