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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Monica Lennon

I am keen to return to some of the evidence that we took at last week鈥檚 meeting. We had a panel of witnesses from local government. I hope that you have had a chance to look at the Official Report if you were not able to watch those proceedings. A witness from the City of Edinburgh Council said that there was a workforce crisis in the environmental health profession, which I thought was quite worrying. I am looking back so that I get this right; she is also chair of the Scottish pollution control co-ordinating committee, so she has a national role as well.

Evidence seems to be emerging that there is a crisis as a result of the undergraduate programme for environment health not being attractive. There are also challenges relating to the recruitment of environmental health officers, which could be part of a wider challenge around local government recruitment. I am keen to hear what discussions are taking place across Government and with partners about that. Is there a crisis? How bad is it? What can be done to address it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Monica Lennon

I am happy to leave it there, convener. With respect, though, I was merely seeking to illustrate that, while we are putting in place important policies such as LEZs and wanting the public to understand why we are doing so, the loss of bus services at the same time is literally driving people into their cars, and that is having an impact on other policies that Transport Scotland has a key role in, such as reducing car kilometres by 20 per cent by the end of the decade. Maybe Vincent McInally cannot speak to that matter, but other colleagues certainly can.

I just wanted to bring a bit of reality to the discussion. I know that this evidence session is not about bus policy, but the fact is that, if people cannot access bus services to get to where they need to be, it will have an impact on air quality鈥攊n my humble opinion.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Monica Lennon

Mark Roberts said that a stronger system of governance would be desirable.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Monica Lennon

Good morning. I am interested in exploring ESS鈥檚 key findings concerning oversight of the review and reporting on local air quality management. Do you have a view on the adequacy of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency鈥檚 current enforcement powers and on how well they are being used?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Monica Lennon

You are satisfied that there are powers that SEPA could be using. There are existing powers, but they might not be being used as often or as well as they should be. Do you have a view on why that is the case? Has there been an assessment of that? Have you had discussions with people at SEPA about any constraints or barriers that they face?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Monica Lennon

Only if we have time in hand, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Monica Lennon

I am not sure how formal this would need to be, but are you suggesting that additional duties need to be placed on SEPA?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

Monica Lennon

ESS recommended that the Government should establish a new oversight body. My understanding is that that is not where you want to go. What steps will you take to ensure that there is holistic oversight of the system of air quality monitoring? Will you keep an open mind on whether there should be an oversight body in the future?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Monica Lennon

Thank you. The disadvantage of being the last member to ask questions is that, as I am being told, I only have about two minutes left. Stuart Hay was nodding, but I want to ask a supplementary question, so perhaps he will also comment briefly on that.

Gavin Thomson raised the issue of inequality and Dr Fuller added his comments on that. I am aware of some research by the Woodland Trust that looks at tree equity. I do not need to rehearse to you all the benefits of trees and vegetation, but the Woodland Trust found that the most deprived areas coincide with areas where there is the least tree cover and vegetation. I am keen to hear, in a couple of words, what should be done to tackle the link between deprived areas, lack of access to nature and air pollution. I will bring in Stuart Hay first, and then Craig McLaren.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Air Quality

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

Monica Lennon

We are not allowed.