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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Thank you, Mr Harley. I wish you and your colleagues well.

I will hand back to the convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

I think that many people would agree that prevention of non-compliance is the really crucial work.

The people who have been quite vocal are, I would say, friends of SEPA, including two former chief executives, who have expressed sympathy. They have made comments, including about SEPA being starved of funding. We have heard that your funding has been slashed by more than a quarter in real terms since 2010. One talked about a

“starving of funds”

and another said that people are

“distracted to cost-saving exercises”

that take officers away from front-line environmental regulation. It sounds like those people are critical friends. Are they saying the kind of things out loud that people in SEPA today would perhaps like to say to committees such as ours?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

I will move away from enforcement to ask about information that is available in the public domain. That was touched on by the convener, when he asked about your recovery from the cyberattack. I think that you said that not all of your systems are back up and running, and that not all of your data is available. That has caused a lot of concern. I think that the Environmental Rights Centre for Scotland has made an official complaint to Environmental Standards Scotland about SEPA. I am not sure of the status of that complaint; my comment is based on media reports from a couple of weeks ago. There is a great concern that SEPA is failing to maintain the public register, which means that pollution permits for about 175,000 sites are not available, and that information is not in the public domain. What is going on there?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

I appreciate that the situation must be difficult for staff, who are working hard to get everything back up and running.

What does the situation that you are outlining look like in practice? If I, as a Central Scotland MSP, want to get information about a site in Lanarkshire, I cannot get that information from the public register online, so how do I go about getting it? Is it available? Do I have to physically go to an office?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Thank you for being so open; I am really interested in what you have said. If more people are having to resort to freedom of information requests, does that mean that SEPA is getting bogged down with such requests?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

That is great. Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

No, convener. I was going to ask about fly-tipping.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

Yes, I have hinted that I want to ask about fly-tipping. I am keen to hear from all the witnesses, so do not feel that you have to answer all parts of my question.

What impact will the provisions in the bill have on fly-tipping? Would you like to see anything else in the bill in that regard? Outwith the proposals in the bill, I am keen to hear what else is happening to improve the enforcement and prevention of fly-tipping.

I will start with David Harley, but I am also keen to hear from Nick Halfhide and Iain Gulland, should they have anything to add.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Monica Lennon

It is reassuring to hear that those provisions are not yet in force. That is quite a long period of time and not everyone who is now on the committee would have been involved in the legislation, so, for the record, what was the first date on which this came to the Government’s attention?