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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 February 2022

Monica Lennon

I go back to the example of the X1 bus—an express service between Hamilton and Glasgow which was well used in the local area. The company did not share its modelling and its data said that the bus route did not make enough profit. There was much sympathy across the political spectrum, and the community has fought hard, but that bus route has not been returned. Many of my constituents—although not all—say that they now drive or car share to get to work in the city.

Is there anything in the workplace parking levy scheme that will make it possible for that bus to come back? The debate is not theoretical—people have to make those choices when they get up in the morning and come home from work and sadly, in the example that I have given you, people who had used the bus regularly now use the car. Will the workplace parking levy change that situation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 February 2022

Monica Lennon

I was asking about the discussions that you have had with the STUC in the past month or so. Colleagues have hinted that it is important that we get this right. We have an opportunity to take a beat—to pause and to ensure that we get this right. The workplace parking levy will directly affect workers. You are trying to change the behaviour of workers, so I am concerned about the fact that you have not discussed the issue with the STUC.

I welcome other work that you are doing, for example making public transport safer, particularly for women.

What is your message today to women who do not feel safe using buses or trains, or who cannot get on a bus or a train? I live in Hamilton. People felt really safe using the X1 bus express service to Glasgow, but that service has gone. I spoke to your predecessor about that. The service has not been brought back by anyone—not First Bus, Strathclyde Partnership for Transport, South Lanarkshire Council or the Scottish Government. People in my area might be able to swallow a workplace parking levy if there was a bus that they could get on.

We have all got examples, minister. What is your message to people who are worried, do not feel safe or do not have a bus to get on? They will have to take their car anyway, and possibly bear the cost of the measure because their employer might well pass that on. I believe that to be what has happened in eight out of 10 cases in Nottingham, which is the model that you are so keen on.

People are worried, minister. What is your response? They do not want to know about the difference between the legislation and the regulations. You are the brand new transport minister. What are you doing to listen to people’s genuinely held concerns?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 February 2022

Monica Lennon

You have been honest in saying that, in principle, you are opposed to a workplace parking levy. If the Parliament voted for the motion to annul the regulations, to create a bit of space for the scheme to be reconsidered and for improvements to be made, what would you like the minister to consider, who would you like her to speak to and what practical differences would you like to be made?

I know from our shared time in local government that you and I both want to empower not only local authorities but people throughout Scotland to make the best choices for themselves. Would you, for example, want the minister to consider the everyone aboard campaign, which calls for free public transport by bus to be extended to everyone under the age of 25 as well as to people on low incomes and benefits? Is that the kind of measure that the Parliament should consider so that there can be a place for a workplace parking levy in the future?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (NPF4)

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Monica Lennon

Before I ask my question, I note that Mark Ruskell referred to a moratorium on new incinerators. My understanding is that ministers have not confirmed a moratorium but have asked planning authorities to notify them of any new applications and decisions for energy-from-waste developments. Perhaps we could get clarification on that later for the Official Report.

It is good that we are discussing the role of incineration and energy from waste in the waste hierarchy. From 2011 to 2020, the total quantity of waste that was incinerated in Scotland increased by more than 200 per cent, so it is clearly an issue that is worth exploring today.

If we do not see a permanent ban or moratorium on new energy-from-waste developments, what should we see in NPF4 in relation to their future role, bearing in mind possible climate and nature impacts? We have already heard from Iain Gulland that NPF4 is missing the point on the circular economy so there is a bigger picture. I am interested to hear views from the witnesses, starting with Iain, given that I have mentioned him.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (NPF4)

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Monica Lennon

If you want to add something, please go ahead.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (NPF4)

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Monica Lennon

I think that Rosie Simpson wants to respond.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (NPF4)

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Monica Lennon

I am glad that you got your point on the record.

What is Scottish Environment LINK’s perspective on the climate and nature impacts of incinerators or large-scale energy-from-waste developments? What are its views on the point about clarity and how NPF4 aligns with other reviews?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (NPF4)

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Monica Lennon

While we are chatting, I note that we do not yet have the circular economy bill in place. Does anyone have a view on the importance of that bill being introduced so that everyone involved in making planning decisions knows that the issues are important? Iain has popped up on my screen.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

National Planning Framework (NPF4)

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Monica Lennon

I am glad that you mentioned policy 20 in NPF4. I am looking at the part that says:

“Development proposals which involve the recovery of energy from waste should only be supported where ... it is consistent with climate change mitigation targets and in line with circular economy principles; and ... should supply a decarbonisation strategy aligned with Scottish Government decarbonisation goals and be refused where the strategy is insufficient”.

I am a former town planner and I find that difficult to navigate. We have heard about the shortage of planners and issues around skills. You have mentioned part of policy 20 and I have read out another part. Are we creating mixed messages?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Monica Lennon

Good afternoon, minister, and congratulations on your new role.

What type of conditions are likely to be applied to licences? Can you give some examples? How would compliance with conditions be monitored and resourced?