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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Monica Lennon

Before we hear from Tom Norris, I want to ask about building warrants, which we have had some discussion about. From the Homes for Scotland perspective, does the current process of building standards verification and issuing of building warrants adequately assess the energy efficiency and general standard of a property? We have heard about the need to address the quality of work to ensure that energy efficiency measures have been adequately fitted. Do you have a view on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Monica Lennon

We have had a helpful written submission from Homes for Scotland, which touches on skills and challenges in local government. Through the inquiry, we have heard quite a lot about the planning workforce in local authorities. I think that, between 2011 and 2020, there has been a 20 per cent reduction in that workforce. However, we have not heard as much about other professions that work in local government. Do you have any comments on the building standards workforce in local government from the RICS or surveying perspective? Is that area presenting challenges?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Monica Lennon

Good morning. Some interesting points have been made about future proofing, which takes me back to evidence that we heard in May from the Existing Homes Alliance Scotland. Frustration was expressed about the fact that the homes that we are building right now are not fit for purpose. Teresa Bray from the Existing Homes Alliance Scotland said:

鈥淭he fact that we are building new homes that will have to be retrofitted is appalling. No one who moves into a new-build home should have to retrofit their home. That should be built into the price.鈥濃擺Official Report, Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee, 17 May 2022; c 28.]

Today, we have heard about some of the challenges in that regard, and good points have been made. How do we navigate between that view and the desire to get things right now? Tom Norris has made points about the need for more joined-up working, and Fionna Kell spoke about the need for a route map.

I have a question about the idea that the homes that we are building today are not fit for purpose. Is that to do with insulation, heating systems or both? What can we do to improve the situation? Perhaps Fionna Kell will respond first.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Monica Lennon

It is all very challenging. That is helpful. Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Monica Lennon

You mentioned NPF4, which is still a live issue for the Parliament鈥攊t is under scrutiny鈥攁nd you touched on the need for better alignment of planning and building standards.

Tom, you talked about the need for a more joined-up approach. Do you want to add to what Fionna Kell said?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 14 June 2022

Monica Lennon

Members have enjoyed getting out of the Parliament to see some of the good and innovative practice that exists across Scotland. Do you have anything to add, Niall?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Monica Lennon

Good morning, Franziska. It has been a pleasure to hear your contribution, so I thank you. Perhaps the committee could visit Freiburg at some point in the future.

In our inquiry into local government, we have heard many complaints about how slow councils can be in making decisions, particularly in the planning process. I am interested to hear that, in Freiburg, your city planning office is regarded as a think tank and an agenda setter.

Could you tell us a bit more about that? How do you ensure, in your municipality, that your work is widely recognised and appreciated, and that the staff feel motivated? Clearly, you feel very proud of the work that you are doing. Is that a feeling that the staff share? Do people want to work for the municipality?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 31 May 2022

Monica Lennon

Thank you.

I know that we do not have a lot of time, convener, so I will shortly pass back to you, but it would be interesting to hear from Freiburg in the future about the planning workforce, because we have questions about that workforce in Scotland. We have had a reduction in our planning workforce, so it would be interesting to see a comparison. In the interests of time, however, I will pass back to you, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Monica Lennon

Are you saying that a disproportionate number of wind farm applications end up in public local inquiries compared to other developments?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Role of Local Government in Delivering Net Zero

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Monica Lennon

In this inquiry, we have had a lot of discussion about skills, expertise and capacity in local government, and there is lots of good practice to celebrate. However, I want to pick up on the point that Morag Watson made about time constraints. My question is for David Hammond, although I see David Rodger on my screen.

David Hammond, you work in North Ayrshire Council. Clearly, demands are high on the time of officers across the council. In order to have the networking and engagement that we have heard about, how do we free up the time of local government officers so that they can engage in that work in a meaningful way, and how do we get to a place in which we pockets of best practice are not thought of as the exception鈥攈ow do we cascade those practices across local government and the public sector, so that we can learn from the best and can improve?