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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Monica Lennon

Thank you for elaborating. Obviously, the inquiry is looking at what a modern sustainable ferry service will look like in the future, but we cannot detach that from the shoreside infrastructure that you mentioned. Before I move to Helen Inkster, do you want to add anything about that wider infrastructure?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Monica Lennon

If I have got that wrong, you can let us know afterwards. I come to Helen Inkster.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Monica Lennon

Yes. At the start of the meeting, in response to my colleagues, you said that safety is paramount. There was a bit of a safety scandal last year, and I am wondering what lessons were learned from that. Did the company learn any lessons?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Monica Lennon

I want to pick up the issue of affordability. As you will be aware, the Scottish Government鈥檚 on-going fair fares review is looking at the prospect of travel discounts, including the possibility of publicly funded free travel for transport services such as ferry services. I understand that, at the moment, a limited number of islanders are entitled to free ferry travel. I am keen to hear your views on that. Would you welcome a scheme to expand discounted travel?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Monica Lennon

For the record, I disagree with the convener, which happens from time to time. In the interests of time, I will not pursue the matter further just now, but I think that it is crucial that the workforce and the trade unions are involved in issues around procurement and design. We might have differing views around the table, but I am glad to have had the chance to put that on record鈥攖hank you, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Public Petitions

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Monica Lennon

I agree with the deputy convener. We do not know the answers to some questions, some of which might be technical in nature in relation to design, so we should definitely ask those questions.

I pay tribute to Daryl Cooper for lodging the petition in Parliament. It was really good that the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee鈥擨 hope that I have the title correct now鈥攔eached out to our MSP colleague Pam Duncan-Glancy, who is a wheelchair user. She was able to share her lived experience in relation to the front-facing issue and the limit of only one wheelchair user being able to use any given service. She gave the example of her and her husband not being able to travel together, which got me thinking about people with caring responsibilities and people with children not being able to travel together.

We could write to the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities to understand how local authorities intend to use the powers that are available to them under the Transport (Scotland) Act 2019. There are therefore things that we could pursue.

This is a voluntary interest of mine, but I should say that I am patron of Disability Equality Scotland. The committee can therefore understand why I am keen for us to do what we can to get some answers and, I hope, some progress for people.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Monica Lennon

I may have changed my mind, but we will see what happens. My initial question is about procurement. Will each of you tell us how your organisations go about specifying and procuring new vessels, and how that differs from the approach of CMAL, which, as we know, procures vessels for Scottish Government-supported ferry services?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Monica Lennon

Is it as simple as that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Monica Lennon

Is it correct to say that you also have to think about the interests of shareholders? I think that the company makes a decent profit.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Monica Lennon

Yes, but in terms of viability and profitability, going back to 2011-12, Western Ferries has made more than 拢17 million in profit after tax and has paid out more than 拢5 million in dividends to shareholders. Is that correct?