The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of ˿ and committees will automatically update to show only the ˿ and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of ˿ and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of ˿ and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Yes, please do.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Okay. Thanks for that clarification.
Can I just clarify a couple of things with you, too? I have seen the number of participating bodies in this year’s exercise as being either 110 or 127. Which is the correct number?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Graham Simpson has a quick question.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
To what extent is that a resource issue? We are dealing with an environment in which the financial pressures on the health service and health boards are intensifying, and the financial pressures on local councils and across local government are getting greater. Is the reason for the decline that they are unable to find the resources to follow up some of the work?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
It is useful that we have finished up on that point this morning, because I was going to ask a broader question that relates to it. A lot of the emphasis in the discussion that we have had this morning has been on individual citizens defrauding the state, but there are also instances of corporations potentially defrauding the state, whether in relation to personal protective equipment or something else.
When we previously took evidence on the national fraud initiative, in September 2022, we were told of instances where people had passed away in care homes but the council was not notified, so it continued to pay fees for those people. Is that still being monitored?
10:30Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
I was going to say that we will draw proceedings to a close on that jolly note, but James Dornan has a final question to put to you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Thank you very much indeed for providing us with evidence this morning. It has been a very useful session. We are legislators, and at some points we strayed into areas where legislation might need to be amended, so there are certain things that we will need to consider—as well as, perhaps, things that you will consider as a result of this morning’s session.
I thank you both for your time and contributions this morning. You have given us a few things to think about, and your evidence allows us to compare the exercise with the previous one, two years ago, and consider whether we want to suggest some areas that could be covered that are currently not, or some bodies that really ought to be part of the initiative but are currently not.
I now move the committee into private session.
10:35 Meeting continued in private until 11:25.Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
I have a final question. When we discussed the adult concessionary bus travel arrangements earlier, Graham Simpson said that more than 1,000 people have used the bus passes of people who are deceased. For the record, it is fair to say that that was out of 99,600 people. In other words, 99 per cent of the population are entirely honest. Let us get some perspective on that.
However, I wonder about the extent to which you monitor the bus operators, because there are interesting considerations around whether the journeys that are charged for are the journeys that people have actually taken or whether there is a mismatch. For example, when you get off the bus, you are supposed to swipe your card to say, “This is the stop that I’m getting off at.” If you do not do that, what is the default position? Is it that the bus operator charges for a longer journey? I wonder whether that falls within the remit of the national fraud initiative or whether it is looked at somewhere else.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Our main item of business this morning is consideration of the report “National Fraud Initiative in Scotland 2024”. I welcome our witnesses, who join us in the committee room. We have John Cornett, executive director of audit services, Audit Scotland; and Tim Bridle, audit manager, Audit Scotland. We have some questions to put to you about the report but, before we get to that, I invite you to make a short opening statement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 September 2024
Richard Leonard
Thanks. That is a useful clarification. We are going to get into some of the specific match areas, but first I have a couple of questions on the broader impact of the initiative. In exhibit 3 in the report, you talk about the wider benefits of the national fraud initiative. You list that it can
“Act as a deterrent to potential fraudsters ... provide assurance that systems are operating well”
and
“identify where system improvements are required”.
Can you tell us more about that? What evidence do you have to support your claims in the report?