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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

Other members might ask you further questions about that.

Finally, I turn to the aspect of the report—on which we took further evidence from Audit Scotland—about difficulties with the internal audit arrangements.

Mr Miller, you have been saying that you have told Audit Scotland what to put in its report, and that you have volunteered everything, so there is nothing of any revelation to you. Do you think that it is satisfactory that there are criticisms of the internal audit arrangements? The report talks about a number of high-risk and medium-risk areas. Can you elaborate on what they are and tell us what your disposition is on the internal audit arrangements?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 5 February 2025

Richard Leonard

So you accept the findings.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Richard Leonard

Good morning, Mr Bruce. During the Finance and Public Administration Committee’s inquiry, there was a very interesting comment from the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman that appeared in the committee’s final report. The ombudsman said:

“We are not doing the job that we think we should be doing because we do not have the right legislative remit.”—[Official Report, Finance and Public Administration Committee, 30 April 2024; c 37.]

My question to you is this: do you think that you have the right legislative remit?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Richard Leonard

You have surveyed the landscape of other commissions and commissioners. Do you have any sense of whether they have the right framework? Do they have adequate powers, for example?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Richard Leonard

Okay. Let me move on to some of the things that you have said in your submission. We are aware that, as you have reported, there has been a rise in demand for your services, which is constituted in part by a rise in complaints about, for example, the conduct of elected members. What measures have you implemented to ensure that your office is functioning effectively? What assessment do you carry out to ensure that you are being effective and that your impact is as you would want it to be?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Richard Leonard

To powers?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Richard Leonard

Yes.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Richard Leonard

Absolutely.

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Richard Leonard

Yes—you have not paid a visit to the Public Audit Committee recently, which is always a good sign.

I have one final question. In the debate that is taking place about the future landscape of bodies such as yours, there has been an attempt to forge a distinction between the commissioners and commissions that are regulatory and those that have an advocacy function. In addition, distinctions are sometimes drawn between the commissions and commissioners that are proactive and those that are reactive. How would you define the work that you do? Is it regulatory only, or is there some advocacy? Is it simply reactive, or do you do proactive work as well?

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review Committee

SPCB Supported Bodies Landscape Review

Meeting date: 30 January 2025

Richard Leonard

Thanks very much. Good morning, Ms Vestri. On the last point that you made, to what extent is the Standards Commission regulatory only, to what extent does it have any kind of advocacy role, to what extent is it reactive—just dealing with complaints as they come through the system—and to what extent do you see your role as being proactive?