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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2021
Richard Leonard
Thank you. I will bring Sharon Dowey back in, then, I think, Willie Coffey has a question on the area that Sharon Dowey will pursue.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2021
Richard Leonard
Does Willie Coffey want to come in?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2021
Richard Leonard
One of the things that is mentioned in the report, which I think Mr Boyle referred to, is data. Paragraph 25 of the report puts it very starkly when it says:
鈥淭he Scottish Government鈥檚 national aim is to improve outcomes for all, but it has not set out by how much or by when.鈥
From an auditing perspective, that sounds like quite a major flaw, doesn鈥檛 it?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2021
Richard Leonard
We will return to some of these themes during the course of this morning鈥檚 session. As you stated at the beginning, the report takes us up to January 2021 and, obviously, quite a lot has happened since that time. Have you been able to gather any more information about where things are now? Have you been able to understand whether some of the actions that were recommended in your report, for example, have been followed up at a central and local government level?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2021
Richard Leonard
Thank you. That has been a very useful line of questioning. I will now turn to Colin Beattie, who has a number of questions around outcomes.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2021
Richard Leonard
Craig Hoy has a series of questions. I think that he wants to make a declaration of interests before he puts his questions.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2021
Richard Leonard
I think that Antony Clark wants to come in with a few points on the same area.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2021
Richard Leonard
The main purpose of this morning鈥檚 session is to look at the section 23 report that was brought out in March this year jointly by the Auditor General for Scotland and the Accounts Commission, which looked at improving outcomes for young people through school education.
I am delighted once again to welcome the Auditor General, who is here with us in person this morning. There are also three of his colleagues who worked on the report joining us via videolink: Antony Clark, interim director of performance audit and best value; Tricia Meldrum, senior audit manager; and Zoe McGuire, senior auditor in performance audit and best value. Welcome to all four of you. We have quite a number of questions to put this morning but, before we do that, Auditor General, could you give us a brief introductory statement?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2021
Richard Leonard
Good morning. I welcome everybody to the third meeting of the Public Audit Committee in this session of Parliament. I begin by reminding everybody about Parliament鈥檚 rules on social distancing and also the requirement to wear face masks if you are moving around the room or entering or leaving the room.
Agenda item 1 is a decision on whether to take items 3 and 4 in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 9 September 2021
Richard Leonard
Tricia Meldrum, do you want to come in on the questions that Sharon Dowey put?