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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 June 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

Good morning, and welcome to the Public Audit Committee’s fourth meeting in 2023.

The first item is consideration of whether to take agenda item 3 in private. Do members agree to take item 3 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

I hear that but, just from my simple perspective, are you saying that there has been a reduction in the size of the senior management team but that it is costing more money?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

Willie Coffey has some questions.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

The principal item on our agenda is consideration of the 2021-22 audit of the Crofting Commission, which has been laid before Parliament and about which we have an evidence session. I welcome our three witnesses: Stephen Boyle, the Auditor General for Scotland; Pat Kenny, a director for audit and assurance at Deloitte LLP; and Kirsty Ridd, an audit manager at Audit Scotland.

We have some questions to put to the witnesses, but before we get into those I ask the Auditor General to make a short opening statement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

I re-emphasise the point that it would be useful for us to see what interaction there has been between the commission and the crofting communities. Although many of us would welcome the arrangement of direct elections, it has to be more than that and an on-going relationship. It may be that we need to speak to the Crofting Commission itself about that, but any perspective that you could give would be very helpful.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

Sharon Dowey has another question to put to you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

But—sorry, Auditor General, I will bring you in in a moment—is that a net increase in the budget, to pay for senior management, or is it just a rebalancing of the existing budget?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

Yes, that is quite reassuring. For the purposes of today, you said that you did not think that the majority of it had gone on to the senior management team. In rough terms—or exact terms, if you have that information—what is the division of additional resource that is going into those front-line posts versus that which is going into the senior management team?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Crofting Commission”

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Richard Leonard

Thanks very much. As none of the committee members has any more questions, I am going to draw this meeting to a close. I thank Pat Kenny, Stephen Boyle and Kirsty Ridd. We appreciate your input this morning. There are some things that we might want to follow up with you and the Crofting Commission.

I now close the public part of this morning’s meeting.

09:44 Meeting continued in private until 10:58.  

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 19 January 2023

Richard Leonard

The principal item on our agenda is consideration of a section 22 report, “The 2021/22 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”. I am pleased to welcome our witnesses this morning: the Auditor General for Scotland, Stephen Boyle; Michael Oliphant, audit director at Audit Scotland; and Helen Russell, senior audit manager at Audit Scotland. We have an extensive range of questions to put, but before we get to that, I ask the Auditor General to make a short opening statement.