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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 June 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limitedâ€

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Does the First Marine International report contain any opinion on public ownership versus private ownership?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limitedâ€

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you. On that positive note, I thank our witnesses for giving us their time and for their contributions. It has been very useful to us. I thank Colin Cook, Gregor Irwin, David Tydeman and Andrew Miller for joining us.

I now move the meeting into private session.

10:36 Meeting continued in private until 11:11.  

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limitedâ€

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much indeed. We will come to questions shortly, but before that I invite Gregor Irwin to give us a short opening statement as well.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limitedâ€

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. You mentioned written authority and the recent statement to Parliament. We will start with questions around that from the deputy convener, Sharon Dowey.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limitedâ€

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Richard Leonard

Again, under the Scottish public finance manual, you are obliged to speak up if you think that something is not value for money, which you did. Do you not think that you blurred the lines a little bit in your role as an impartial civil servant in the justification that appears in your letter to Neil Gray, which we have seen, around Government policy objectives and ministerial decisions? You stray into the policy territory. Why did you feel that it was necessary to do that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goalsâ€

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Richard Leonard

Thank you very much. We now move to another area that has been highlighted in the report and which Willie Coffey has some questions on.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goalsâ€

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goalsâ€

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay; thank you.

Obviously, the committee will have to consider whether it would be useful for us to invite officials from DG net zero to give evidence to us. If we decided to do that, we could put to them directly some of the questions that have arisen from our session with you.

I thank the Auditor General very much for the evidence that he has led this morning, and I thank Rebecca Seidel and Sally Thompson for the very useful evidence that they have contributed.

For the record, I should have mentioned at the start that Colin Beattie has submitted his apologies for not being at today’s meeting. I wanted to have that recorded.

I close the public part of the meeting and move us into private session.

10:08 Meeting continued in private until 11:03.  

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goalsâ€

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Richard Leonard

The principal item on this morning’s agenda is for us to consider an important report, which the Auditor General published in April. The report relates to audit work that was conducted up until March, so it is very up to date in both data and analysis, and looks into how the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goals.

I welcome our witnesses. Stephen Boyle is the Auditor General for Scotland. Alongside him are Rebecca Seidel and Sally Thompson, both of whom are senior managers at Audit Scotland.

As usual, we have quite a wide range of questions to put to you, but before we get into them, I ask the Auditor General to give us an opening statement.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “How the Scottish Government is set to deliver climate change goalsâ€

Meeting date: 18 May 2023

Richard Leonard

Okay. Obviously, part of our role as a parliamentary committee with an interest in this area is to hold Government to account and it might be that we will consider taking up what you have just told us.

Another thing struck me in relation to the point about transparency. Does the GCE programme board publish minutes, for example? Does it have minutes? If so, are they in the public domain?