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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental healthâ€

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

I do not know whether you saw the evidence session that we had last week. Kirsten Urquhart from Young Scot took part and, regarding young people, said:

“going on TikTok is not the same as knowing where to find and how to use a mental health support tool.â€â€”[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 9 November, c.9.]

In other words, she was saying that, among younger adults, there were issues around whether they could access online appointments or whether they, too, would prefer face-to-face appointments.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental healthâ€

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

It is also in line with the Christie commission principles about early intervention being absolutely critical, which we talk about so much at the Public Audit Committee. Thank you for that. Simon Burt and Jo Gibson want to come in on that question, too.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental healthâ€

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

A couple of you have mentioned funding. That leads me to ask about the impact of last year’s emergency budget review, which led to a £38 million cut in mental health funding for 2022-23. There was also a £65 million cut in funding for improving primary care services. We know that primary care GPs are principally—almost always—people’s route of entry to adult mental health services. Does anyone want to reflect on how you have coped with that, the impact of the cut and whether it has affected your ability to provide sustainable and effective adult mental health services, including at a primary care level? Simon Burt can start off on that question, and I hope that others will contribute after that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental healthâ€

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Pamela Cremin, from a Highland health and social care partnership perspective, will you give us your reflection on the impact of the emergency budget review and any effects that it had on services in your area?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental healthâ€

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

That is a clear and illuminating answer.

I turn to Jo Gibson.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental healthâ€

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Apologies to those who also wanted to come in on that question—I am sure that you will get an opportunity shortly—but Graham Simpson wants to raise a number of points to keep the conversation going.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental healthâ€

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Tracey McKigen from NHS Lothian wants to come in on that question.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental healthâ€

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

I think that Tracey McKigen in the Lothians wants to come in. Hannah Axon, who is in the room, has also indicated that she wants to come in. We will go to Tracey McKigen next.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental healthâ€

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

The evidence that you have given on this area this morning has been very valuable, so thank you for that.

Colin Beattie will now put some questions to you and elicit some more useful information for the committee’s consideration.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental healthâ€

Meeting date: 23 November 2023

Richard Leonard

Actually, Colin, in the interests of time, Fiona Davies is online and wants to come in. She is an IJB chief officer. Jillian Galloway is also an IJB chief officer, and I do not know whether Simon Burt has got a view. Fiona has indicated that she wants to come in, so I shall bring her in first.