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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I have told you that already—I thought that that might have been breaking news. I am glad that you got that information. That will obviously have an impact on when we produce the climate change plan, which is now prescribed in statute.

We had a very good first official meeting with Emma Pinchbeck, who is the new chief executive officer of the Climate Change Committee, in December—in the week before recess, I think. We discussed the CCC’s approach to the advice that it will give us and our approach to our climate change plan. I am looking forward to getting the CCC’s advice. I am under no illusions with regard to how much it is pulling out all the stops in order to get that advice to us in May.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I will have to write to the committee with that detail. We are doing that work now, because we found out the new date only last Thursday. Obviously, the committee knows that that indication has come. I will write to the committee once we have worked all that out.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

That is what we are working on.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

We will do that as quickly as we possibly can.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

There are a number of things there. I will talk about what the hubs have done with the funding that they have had to date to give you an idea of the sort of thing that they are doing. They hold events and workshops to reach people and support community groups to take action. The hubs have provided small grants to community projects. They bring new groups into the climate conversation and support groups to apply for wider funding. The core funding helps with the establishment of the climate hubs and their operations, and they provide knock-on support for community groups. People could set up a group in a small community to do more and then apply for funding that might be available in other areas.

I hope that that answers your question, but I can give you a little more detail if you want. The hubs’ primary focus is climate action, which encompasses areas such as energy, transport and waste, but they are also very community based, and enable and empower people to make decisions in their communities about the right actions to take. That advice capacity is very important, because it can lead to community groups being able to access funding. The first tranche of the just transition fund had a participatory budgeting aspect, which you will know well. You can imagine that a climate action hub would be able to point a community in the direction of applying for that or another tranche of funding. There are 24 climate action hubs across Scotland, which means that there is national coverage. The knock-on effect that they will have on smaller climate groups and community groups will be pretty significant.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I think that there is an uplift.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

I am looking at the figures, and according to them, I see an uplift of 10 per cent. However, I will check that and come back to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Yes. Again, it is spread across some of the schemes that I have outlined to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Your feedback on that would be helpful, because we want to go further. Feedback from the committee on the detail that is in what we have produced would be really helpful for us as we develop the approach further. I hope that Mark Ruskell agrees that it is better than it was five years ago, when there was not that level of detail. We are working hard to give the level of detail associated with the budget spend. The pilot and the work that has been done this year are an indication of that, but we are not there yet.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Gillian Martin

Grangemouth is an immediate priority for obvious reasons. The work that we are doing in Grangemouth will help to inform the just transition plan that I have already announced for Mossmorran. It would have been—gosh—more than a year ago that I had a discussion with the operators of Mossmorran, who were open to working with us on a just transition plan. The immediate priority is Grangemouth, and the learning from that just transition plan for Grangemouth will help to inform the Mossmorran just transition plan. Those are active discussions and I know that Mark Ruskell has been having those discussions, too.

I also want to do a just transition plan for Torness, and I have had early discussions with the operators about that. There should be a just transition plan for all those critical large industrial sites.