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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 5 October 2021

Gillian Martin

I welcome everyone to the seventh meeting in 2021 of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee. I have received apologies from Evelyn Tweed, and I welcome to the meeting Marie McNair, who is attending as a substitute in Evelyn’s absence.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Does the committee agree to take in private agenda item 3, which is consideration of the evidence that we will hear in the following evidence-taking session with the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care?

Members indicated agreement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health and Care Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2021

Gillian Martin

Thank you, cabinet secretary. My colleagues have some detailed questions.

Whenever anything like this comes before a committee, my main thought is about the committee’s scrutiny function in such matters. When the Scottish Government is not consulted on issues that affect healthcare and the NHS in Scotland, that means that we, too, are unable to scrutinise the decisions. Is that fair comment?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health and Care Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2021

Gillian Martin

Agenda item 2 is an evidence-taking session with the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care on the legislative consent memorandum to the Health and Care Bill. The cabinet secretary will be supported online by the following Scottish Government officials: Jane Hamilton is the head of business management and intergovernmental relations in the health workforce directorate; Robert Henderson is the head of health and social care in the intergovernmental relations unit; and John Paterson is the divisional solicitor for food, health and social care in the legal directorate. I welcome everyone to the meeting.

Cabinet secretary, I believe that you have an opening statement.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Gillian Martin

I will bring in Nick Watson.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Gillian Martin

I would like to open this up to other panellists. If any of you wish to come in on any of these issues, just put an R in the chat box function in BlueJeans.

The catch-all opening question that I would like to ask all of you is this: what do you see as being the most pressing issues for social care that the committee should consider, and which perhaps need to be tackled through the reality of a national care service?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Gillian Martin

All those contributions have been very useful and will allow us to focus on and dig into some of the areas that you have highlighted.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Gillian Martin

It will have to be.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Gillian Martin

The second item is a round-table session with stakeholders in social care, It is intended that it will inform the committee’s future work programme discussions. Our witnesses join us online.

I welcome Derek Feeley, who is the chair of the independent review of adult social care; Professor David Bell, who is a professor of economics at the University of Stirling and co-principal investigator—CO-PI—at Healthy Ageing in Scotland; Fiona Collie, who is the policy and public affairs manager at Carers Scotland; Henry Simmons, who is the chief executive of Alzheimer Scotland and co-chair of the Fair Work Convention’s social care inquiry; Judith Proctor, who is the chief officer of Edinburgh integration joint board and chair of the chief officer group at Health and Social Care Scotland; and Professor Nick Watson, who is director of the centre for disability research at the University of Glasgow. I welcome you all.

I will ask the first question of Derek Feeley, on the independent review of adult social care, which—obviously—focused on adult social care. Should there be a similar review of children’s social care and of the transition period not only from children’s to adults’ services but, at the other end, from adults’ services to older persons’ services? Do you have thoughts on that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Gillian Martin

In relation to the review, you did an awful lot of work in reaching out to the people who use the various services of adult social care. Even in these early stages of considering the national care service, do you feel that, through the recommendations that you have made, their voices are being heard, and that there is an opportunity for those people to offer input on formation of the national care service?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Social Care Stakeholder Session

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Gillian Martin

Hello—we can hear you perfectly.