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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

I was just about to come to Clea Harmer.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

While you were talking, it occurred to me that one of my colleagues, Angela Crawley MP, is campaigning for paid miscarriage leave. I assume that Sands fully supports that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Thank you for that. There is lots for us to think about there.

Before handing over to my colleagues, I will pick up on one issue that has been mentioned, which I was aware of before: the policy around continuity of carer—for instance, knowing, when you go into labour, who the midwife is and knowing that it will be not be someone you have never met before. As you say, that policy is still to be rolled out. This question is for any of you. When it comes to the practical aspect of that, and given what you have said about the shortage of midwives—it will not be easy, and I am not asking how easy this will be to roll out—do you think that that policy will be doable within the next couple of years, as we come out of the pandemic? Could you reflect on the importance to mental health of having continuity of midwifery care? What difference would that make?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Before we delve into the workforce issues that you have all mentioned, I want to ask Mary Ross-Davie a question. We have spoken to parents who have had mental health issues as a result of pregnancy and childbirth, and one of them mentioned that they had support from an additional support midwife during pregnancy, because it was established that she needed that extra care. I was not aware of that previously but, on probing further, I found that additional support midwives are not available throughout Scotland. Is that your experience? Can you shed any light on where such midwives are available? To me, it sounds like good practice to give somebody an additional support midwife when it is known that they will have particular difficulties.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Thank you. That is very helpful. My colleagues will probably come back to quite a few of the issues that you have brought up.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

David, are you happy to leave it there so that we can move on to other members’ questions, or do you want to come back in?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

This is a good opportunity for me to ask a question that my colleague Sue Webber wanted to ask. Poor Sue has completely lost her voice, but I will be her voice today. Sue wanted to ask Clea Harmer whether it is normal practice in Scotland to have a symbol, such as a butterfly symbol, on the file of mothers who have had previous baby loss. Is that happening throughout Scotland?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Thank you for clarifying. Our final questions are from Stephanie Callaghan on public awareness of the services that the third sector groups provide.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

Perhaps the witnesses could raise their hand if they want to come in, and I will look at the chat box to see whether anyone wants to follow up. I do not want to put anyone on the spot—volunteers are always better.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Perinatal Mental Health

Meeting date: 7 December 2021

Gillian Martin

As you were speaking there, I was thinking about people in island communities, who have an added issue. We do not have any island representatives here.