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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 September 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Item 2 is the first formal evidence session of our inquiry into health inequalities. This session will focus on progress in addressing and tackling health inequalities in Scotland since 2015, when our predecessor committee published a report on that topic.

I thank everyone who took part in our informal evidence sessions last Friday and yesterday. The evidence that we heard at those sessions will feed into a formal evidence session, which will take place on 14 June, but do not be surprised if it comes up throughout all our evidence sessions, because it was very powerful testimony from people with lived experience. I thank Claire Stevens for organising the attendance of a lot of the people whom we spoke to, because their voices really need to be heard. Regardless of the formal session on 14 June, I imagine that people will make reference鈥攁lbeit with names redacted鈥攖o some of the things that we heard, particularly from the people who feel that they lack access to healthcare.

I welcome to the committee David Finch, who is assistant director of the healthy lives directorate of the Health Foundation. David is attending online; I believe that he has had a little difficulty with the connection, so I hope that that connection is being made as I speak.

I also welcome Gerry McCartney, who is professor of wellbeing economy at the University of Glasgow, and is attending in person; Claire Stevens, who is the chief executive of Voluntary Health Scotland, who helped us to organise our informal sessions and is attending in person; and David Walsh, who is public health programme manager at the Glasgow Centre for Population Health, and joins us online.

I was going to ask all the witnesses about the progress that has been made since 2015 and I do want that to be in the back of your minds. I know that you all have an opening statement to make, but I will say up front that health inequalities is a massive subject and it would be remiss of the committee if all we did was talk about the problems. I want our inquiry to look at how and where we can find solutions, actions and recommendations in areas of devolved competence.

With that in mind, I will start with the opening statements. David Finch is not online yet, so we will go first to Gerry McCartney.

10:45  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Claire, would you like to comment?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

David Finch would like to come in.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Does anyone else want to come in on that issue?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Given the point about deindustrialisation, I imagine that parts of England and Wales have been similarly affected, but that may not show up in national data in the same way as it does in Scotland.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

David Finch has been able to join us. David, people are giving opening statements, so I ask for yours.

We cannot hear David, so we might have to ask him to join us on audio only. I am speaking through the ether to our broadcasting colleagues. Can we have David join us on audio only so that we have a fighting chance of hearing him?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Does anyone else want to come in on impact assessments? I will not press you, if you do not want to.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Professor McCartney, do you have anything to add?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

[Inaudible.]鈥攖o have a gremlin in the room. Someone is speaking to us from the beyond. We heard everything that Gerry said. Emma Harper has a quick question, before I go to a question from Sandesh Gulhane.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Health Inequalities

Meeting date: 24 May 2022

Gillian Martin

Of course.