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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Do you agree with the principle of co-design with stakeholders, in order to inform that detail?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I think that Tess White has a question on that.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

When you say “centralisation of services”—you have used that phrase a couple of times—the impression that is given is that services will be run from a central position, when, in fact, the framework sets out that it is about ministerial accountability for standards and that services will still be local. Do you not agree with that? Do you still want clarity on it?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

My point is that there is a difference between delivery and accountability. There will still be local delivery, but there will be ministerial oversight of the standards.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Is that because so much of the detail will happen in secondary legislation as a result of the co-design process with stakeholders?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Paul O’Kane has a question on fair work, but he also wants to pick up on co-design, I believe. I will then go back to Emma Harper, who has some questions on fair work.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Is the fact that human rights will be incorporated into other Government and Parliament procedures the reason for their not being referenced in the bill? The incorporation of such rights will be an overarching process—it will go across every piece of legislation that we have before us. Should they be referenced in the bill?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

If there are no other questions on that theme, I will move on to Anne’s law and questions from Carol Mochan.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Do the other witnesses want to come in on any aspects of the charter? I am interested to know whether you feel that something like a charter would have made a difference, particularly with regard to people exercising their rights in the pandemic. People’s experiences during the pandemic probably brought the need for a national care service to the fore. Do you think that that has been a gap? What is the point in having the legislation if it does not address issues and gaps?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2022

Gillian Martin

I should clarify that I mean health and wellbeing. I missed out the word “wellbeing”, but that is what was in my head. I am talking not only about health outcomes but the general wellbeing outcomes. I will bring in Professor Jon Glasby.

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