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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Although we do not have a specific theme to ask about on it, I wonder whether part 2 of the bill, which is about records and data systems and the sharing of data, might help with regard to integration and the potential for care users to have a bit more agency and not to have to tell their story a million times to a million different people. What are your views on part 2?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I was going to ask about that, because it is about making it clear to people what they can expect. Obviously, these rights exist—you have just referenced some of the legislation that outlines them—but is the gap really in people’s understanding of what their rights are? You say that it is presentational, but would a charter that has been co-designed by those people be easily accessible so that people would know what their rights are with regard to the care that they might receive?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

We now move to questions from Evelyn Tweed on a theme that is already establishing itself today, namely secondary legislation.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

There will be an opportunity to consider the content of the secondary legislation when it comes before us. You say that there is a danger of losing momentum, but given that secondary legislation will come out of the co-design process and come back to Parliament, where is the real danger? Every aspect of the secondary legislation will go through scrutiny and consultation processes.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Is the nervousness not just because the process is a new way of doing things that actually includes the public more?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

As no other colleagues have indicated that they have any more questions to ask, I thank the three panellists for their time this morning, and I suspend the meeting to allow a changeover of witnesses.

11:01 Meeting suspended.  

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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

We move to our next theme, which is ethical commissioning, and Emma Harper will lead the questioning.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I want to pick up on something. You asserted that there will be a lack of opportunity for scrutiny by this committee of the bill and its subsequent secondary legislation. How did you come to that view?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

My question to you is whether you agree that the co-design element, which will inform the detail of the secondary legislation, is the opposite of a top-down approach, given that COSLA will be among those who are asked for their input.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 1 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Jackie, I reiterate that, if any member asks a question and you wish to answer but have not been asked directly, you can put an R in the chat box. I can see that and will bring you in. I am conscious that, when we have someone online, we want to ensure that they have ample opportunity to contribute.

We will move on to the next theme, which will be led by Carol Mochan.