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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I assume that the goal is to implement a single interface that allows all people managing someone鈥檚 care to access the systems and information that is contained in them, such as when a person is transitioning from a clinical setting to a care setting.

I want to bring in the perspective of those who are in the care sector right now. Yesterday, when we were in Dumfries, people in that sector told us that, currently, they have to put multiple entries of the same information into different systems or that they have to access multiple systems, which is taking away from the time that they can spend with their clients. Do any of the witnesses have views on how we can help the workforce with the goal of having a single interface and on how that could be manageable?

One of the reasons why that comes up time and again is that鈥擲andesh Gulhane mentioned this from the health perspective鈥攖he workforce cannot access certain systems in which there is data and information that they require. People who work in social care also say that they spend much of their time having to log in to different systems to report on things or to get information, which takes away from the job that they are supposed to be doing.

I see that Beth Lawton is nodding. I know that I am rambling a little bit, but you get my point. From the perspective of those on the ground, what would need to be implemented to reduce the red tape around that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Martin

During the pandemic, freedom of information was one of the areas in which there were emergency powers because of the deployment of staff to other areas. I do not want to ask you to speculate, because you say that you do not know what the rationale is, but is there maybe something that relates to that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Martin

I want to bring the discussion back to the Government鈥檚 other drives and digital strategy with regard to health. I think that we have got into the situation in our discussion today of saying that the National Care Service (Scotland) Bill is what will introduce a single interface that links records but, in fact, an awful lot more is going on in Government on that. It is not the national care service that has prompted that work; the Government has been working on it for several years and it comes up time and again in the committee, in relation not just to the national care service but to every aspect of health and care.

A few of you have been in front of us before talking about that point in general. Can we put it into that context? There is a wider strategy to make that interface work for all health and social care systems, not just as part of the bill.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Martin

After we have heard from Scott Heald, we will go to Kenneth Meechan.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Emma, do you want to come back in?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Martin

We should always be bringing it back to the bill.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Martin

We have touched on GDPR already, but a couple of colleagues want to come in specifically on that subject. Sandesh, do you still have questions about that? I believe that Stephanie Callaghan has some questions, too.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Stephanie, you have questions on ownership of data, so now is a good time to bring you in.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Martin

Stephanie, do you have any more questions on that issue?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Gillian Martin

A couple of members want to come in on this theme.