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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Reducing Drug Deaths in Scotland and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Gillian Martin

Let us get the ADP perspective.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Reducing Drug Deaths in Scotland and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Gillian Martin

I welcome our second panel of witnesses. Angela Constance, the Minister for Drugs Policy, is accompanied by Orlando Heijmer-Mason, deputy director for drugs policy, and Maggie Page, unit head for the national mission on drugs, both from the Scottish Government.

We will move straight to questions. I start with not so much a question, but an invitation to the minister to give an update on the progress that has been made towards meeting the task force’s recommendations.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Reducing Drug Deaths in Scotland and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Gillian Martin

I am not sure whether you heard the evidence from the previous panel, but I will assume that you did not. Some of the evidence from stakeholders suggests that we still have something of a postcode lottery for services and MAT standards. We heard from some witnesses that people and families often do not get the support that they think they might be entitled to, which might be contrary to the direction that you, as the minister, have set out. How do you bridge those gaps? How do you respond to the fact that, in some areas, things are not working as you would expect them to?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Reducing Drug Deaths in Scotland and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Gillian Martin

Item 2 is an evidence-taking session on reducing drug deaths in Scotland and tackling problem drug use. I welcome to the meeting our first panel of witnesses: Kirsten Horsburgh, director of operations, Scottish Drugs Forum; Karen Reynolds, service manager, Renfrewshire alcohol and drug recovery service; Liz Nolan, deputy director operations, Aberlour Child Care Trust; and Justina Murray, chief executive officer, Scottish Families Affected by Alcohol and Drugs.

I thank the witnesses for coming in this morning. It would really help to go round everyone in the order in which I have introduced them and for you to provide us with an overview of what your organisations do for your clients. Perhaps you can also outline some of the particular issues to which you would want to draw our attention with regard to people going into recovery.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Reducing Drug Deaths in Scotland and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Gillian Martin

I am conscious of the fact that a lot of members want to come in, and we have very limited time. I am sorry about that.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Reducing Drug Deaths in Scotland and Tackling Problem Drug Use

Meeting date: 22 March 2023

Gillian Martin

Justina Murray has just said that, across the country—and she is not pointing at your service, necessarily—the gatekeeping seems to be about saying, “No, we don’t do it that way,” or, “No, that is not available.”

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Female Participation in Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Gillian Martin

That is great. I wanted to get that on the record, because that technology is exciting, and it could be an answer to a lot of problems.

Tess, do you want to come in on that?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Scrutiny of NHS Boards (NHS Ayrshire and Arran, NHS Borders and NHS Forth Valley)

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Gillian Martin

We will go to Ralph Roberts and then we will have to move on. We need to dig into a number of themes, including staffing, and I am conscious that we have only half an hour left with the panel.

10:00  

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Scrutiny of NHS Boards (NHS Ayrshire and Arran, NHS Borders and NHS Forth Valley)

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Gillian Martin

Emma Harper has questions on progress under the recovery plan. I know that we have mentioned it, but if you could ask your question, Emma, we can then move on.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Scrutiny of NHS Boards (NHS Ayrshire and Arran, NHS Borders and NHS Forth Valley)

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Gillian Martin

Thank you. I ask the next witness to be brief, please.