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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 August 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Long Covid Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Alex Rowley

I want to look at the issue of stigma. Our papers refer to a recent study that said that 95 per cent of people with long Covid reported experiencing stigma related to their condition. Have you experienced or been told about discrimination as a result of long Covid? I will start with Sammie.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Long Covid Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Alex Rowley

Jane Ormerod, are we seeing stigma with regard to the response of professional services?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Long Covid Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Alex Rowley

Ian Mullen, what about the workplace and employers? Is there stigma there as well?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Long Covid Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Alex Rowley

If stigma is an issue, as the evidence suggests, what can be done, Stuart?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Long Covid Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Alex Rowley

ME has a lot of similarities with long Covid. ME sufferers have talked for years about stigma—being dismissed as lazy and so on. Have we learned anything fae ME that we can bring to the table here, Rob?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Alex Rowley

We visited a number of projects last week in Airdrie, which was very interesting. Routes to Work and Remploy were running specific projects through fair start, and I have a couple of questions on that. How are Government schemes such as fair start evaluated, and do you have up-to-date reports on them? How successful or otherwise are they? What we saw was very impressive, but people we talked to raised mental health on a number of occasions as being a barrier to getting into work. The one-to-one support that they had received was very successful in getting them into work. Where are we at with all that?

Given that we are trying to reach people who are well removed from the labour market and need a lot of support in place, what kind of joined-up working is there? There is a brief from the Scottish Government, the UK Government is involved through the Department for Work and Pensions and Jobcentre Plus and local government is involved, although there are reduced economic and community development activities due to cuts. The third sector is also involved, so there are a lot of different schemes and organisations trying to help. Is there a joined-up strategy, and are people working together? Is there a need to do more around that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Alex Rowley

Thank you.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 8 December 2022

Alex Rowley

It would be good to see the report. You mentioned the tight financial constraints in which the Government is currently working. There is going to have to be some prioritisation, and I am sure that the taxpayer would say that we want to ensure that we get the best bang for our buck. Whether it is one arm of Government or another—whatever it is—it is all taxpayers’ money. Is there a need, as part of the review, to look at how we maximise what we get for our buck? I look forward to seeing the report.

You also mentioned gender and disability. Last week, I got a note from a senior lecturer at the University of St Andrews, in which he said that there are shocking gender, race and disability pay gaps across the sector. According to the university’s own figures from 2021, men were paid an average of 20.2 per cent more than women, while as of 2020, white employees were paid an average of 5.6 per cent more than employees of colour. Those disparities are shocking and are entirely within the power of the university to undo. What is the role of Government in addressing those kinds of disparities?

Turning to the care sector, there is a clear divide between the public and private sectors in pay and terms and conditions, and people are choosing not to go into a particular sector as a result. Is there a role for Government in looking at the inequalities, such as the gender and disability pay gaps, in sectors such as care? Does the Government need to do more to try to address those issues in order to get people back into the labour market?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 November 2022

Alex Rowley

To what extent have those issues been allowed to brew over many years? Specifically, we do not seem to talk much about Brexit, but what is its impact? Certainly, the Government in Scotland talks about the effect of Brexit in terms of there not being the people to take up the jobs. Other issues are poor skills, poor education, poor numeracy and literacy skills and so on.

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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Road to Recovery Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 November 2022

Alex Rowley

Jack Jones wants to come in on that.