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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

I will probably follow that up in the future.

You have already been asked about the fiscal framework. Certainly, I feel as though Scotland gets a raw deal, and other Scottish politicians might say the same. Obviously, the Westminster politicians think that Scotland is being dealt with very generously. A couple of years ago—which, I accept, was before you were in post—Shona Robison had those discussions with the Treasury. Where does that leave the civil service? Scottish ministers are expecting support and that you will argue the case for Scotland, whereas Westminster civil servants argue the case for the UK. Is that a problem, or is it just handled?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

You have had quite a lot of questions from my colleagues, so I will pick up on one or two points.

We have talked about reducing the size of the civil service. That is also happening at a UK level, and I wonder how the two interact. If the UK civil service reduces, that might mean that we get less money through the block grant. Are the two combined in any way, or are you just looking at Scotland?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

A challenge that we sometimes have in Scotland is that an announcement is made at Westminster that there will be capital or resource spending, but, because we do not know where that money is coming from, we do not know whether we will get extra money. Sometimes, it will come out of an existing departmental budget and, therefore, there is no extra money, but we do not always know that at the time.

Is that something that civil servants speak to colleagues at Westminster about, or might they not know themselves, because although the Government ministers have made an announcement on new expenditure, they might be borrowing or doing something else? Is that a space in which we can see an improvement?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

So, would we assume that something like high speed 2, which appears to be overrunning, would be within a department’s budget, or would extra money come to us?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

It is a huge area. I just wanted to touch on it today because it had not been mentioned, but I am not going to go into it. However, if Mr Irwin wants to say something, he is welcome to do so.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

The “Future Trends” document says that the risk of experiencing further pandemics is increasing. Are we ready for the next pandemic?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 24 June 2025

John Mason

Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

John Mason

Perhaps this question is unfair, but does the SFC have closer engagement with colleges than it had with the universities? To be frank, we got the impression that the SFC sat back until a university told it that it had a problem. Is it more involved with colleges?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

John Mason

Ms Campbell, I was looking at your accounts, which are a wee bit scary. In August 2022, you had £11 million in reserves. You also have revaluation reserves, but if we leave those out, your restated income and expenditure reserves dropped from £11 million to £4 million in July 2023 and £1.3 million in July 2024. That is a concerning picture. I know that you are new to the institution, but where is the college going in that regard?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

John Mason

Okay. Mr Witty, is that typical of colleges? Are they all in a similar space?