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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 September 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

John Mason

That is helpful. I think that we are more in agreement than I thought we were at the beginning.

I want to move on to another subject. In its submission, the alliance talked about the idea of the third sector filling the gap, so I wonder whether that was a complaint. Maybe Gillian McElroy and Adam Stachura could come in on that. Is not that the place for the third sector? The public sector is largely lumbering and bureaucratic, and there will always be gaps. I see the third sector as being very good at filling the gaps. Am I right? What is your thinking?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

John Mason

You do not think that it increases confusion.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

John Mason

That is a good answer—I might quote you on that.

I turn to Gillian McElroy, because I think that the alliance talked about the fact that we need more communication around long Covid. Are we in the same place as we were with vaccination for pregnant women, in that there is so much uncertainty around long Covid that now might not be the time to be doing a communication campaign?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

John Mason

That is very helpful. Thank you.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

John Mason

Is that the case even if we do not know and we are just being honest with people about that? Do you agree with the previous comment that, if we are uncertain about some things, we should just be honest with people about that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Communication of Public Health Information Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 June 2022

John Mason

We have talked a lot about communication, and I want to continue that with regard to the communication of uncertainty. We have had some advice from the scientific community that we should be very open about uncertainty, because that increases transparency and, therefore, trust. However, given that we have already accepted that getting simple messages across in all the different languages to all the different groups in society is quite difficult, I wonder whether that is realistic, when there is uncertainty, which there obviously is.

One example was the uncertainty at the beginning of the vaccination programme about whether pregnant women should be vaccinated. I think that the vaccine had not been tested on pregnant women and, therefore, a decision could not be made, so it was publicly said that that would have to wait. However, the message that many people took from that was, “Vaccines are dangerous for pregnant women.” Can you comment on how we deal with uncertainty? Perhaps Professor Pell could start.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

John Mason

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

John Mason

Ms Brumpton, from your perspective, are the costs in the different parts of the sector similar?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

John Mason

I will leave it there, convener. [Interruption.]

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Financial Memorandum for the Children and Young People (Scotland) Bill (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 21 June 2022

John Mason

Yes, I saw your comment in your written paper that you do not think that 2 per cent is a good enough figure.