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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

John Mason

Some people are fanatical. For example, my sister鈥擨 hope that she is not watching鈥攖akes the labels off jam jars, which I consider ridiculous.

Kirsty, will you comment?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

John Mason

That sounds positive. Charlie, is that level of involvement not possible in the cities?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

John Mason

I accept that that is a problem.

The final issue that I want to talk about is the proposal on littering from vehicles. I find it hard to get my head around how it could possibly work unless there is somebody with a camera photographing people who are dropping litter out of vehicles. What would the cost of that proposal be? The financial memorandum suggests that it could be self-financing. Is that possible?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

John Mason

To take another angle, I want to pick up your point that, in future, you might not be allowed to charge for the uplift of specific items such as garden waste. Glasgow has just started doing that, and I think that other councils have been doing it. Will you explain to us what the issue is?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 24 October 2023

John Mason

Mr Jack, you referred to grey bins. I do not know what people can put into grey bins in your council area, but in mine grey bins are only for food. Could councils work together and have the same colours of bins? Would that help?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

John Mason

We have been told by witnesses that the public sector landscape is cluttered, given the number of organisations. Some of the individuals and organisations in Largs brought that up as well. Another issue that has been raised with us is that although individual organisations can make savings, that is not really reform. The police would never have combined into one organisation without a central Government push. How much is the Government thinking of pushing for the kind of reform that would involve reducing the number of bodies?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

John Mason

We are still hoping that the Chief Secretary to the Treasury or others will come to the committee to explain some of the fiscal framework process to us. We have been having difficulty with that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

John Mason

Deputy First Minister, I take your point that we will have another session on the fiscal framework, but if you do not mind, I want to ask you a few questions about it. If you want to come back to us at a later point, that would be okay.

We were all a bit surprised about how quick the whole process was. We had thought that the previous report would have been published, that there would have been outlines for a review and that it would have gone backwards and forwards. I was certainly caught by surprise when it was all agreed. I remember that, the previous time, it was John Swinney who was negotiating. The draft framework was put to Parliament and the Conservatives said that we should accept a poor deal, but John Swinney carried on arguing and we ended up with a better deal. Can you explain the timeline of what happened?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

John Mason

That has worried the committee previously, and I think that we will look at that. Are there any updates that you can give? Can you say anything about timelines?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland鈥檚 Finances

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

John Mason

I will move on to one or two other points. The committee had a useful away day in Largs, when we listened to local people鈥檚 ideas about the budget. Everyone accepted the fact that we face difficult financial times. There was a degree of openness鈥攊n the group that I was in, certainly鈥攖o a little more means testing and a little less in the way of universal benefits. When we pressed people, we found that they were not suggesting means testing to access the NHS or schools. What is your thinking and that of the Government on how we can get the balance there? Currently, some things are means tested, and some things are universal. How do we get the balance right on that?