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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

John Mason

In a business in, for example, the financial sector, would the level of transparency vary, so that, even if outsiders do not know why decisions were made, at least everyone in the business would know?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

John Mason

Following on from that, there is the whole question of short-term decision making against long-term decision making. We took evidence from New Zealand where the suggestion was that the civil servants have a requirement—it may be a statutory requirement—to produce some long-term options, rather than advice, to try and get a more long-term view. Dr Foster mentioned short-termism in her paper. Should we be more long term in our thinking? How do we make better long-term decisions?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

John Mason

Dr Foster, I was interested in a couple of points in your paper, one of which is about public engagement and consultation. You seem to suggest that, actually, the Scottish Parliament and Government consult quite a lot, but you then quote somebody else making the comment that

“media attention may be a stronger driver in Scotland than the majority of government agendas in other countries.â€

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 25 April 2023

John Mason

Well, you can tell me whether you agree or disagree.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Convener

Meeting date: 20 April 2023

John Mason

I nominate Jim Fairlie.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

John Mason

We can identify with that here.

Finally, how much priority do the long-term insights briefings, and similar work, get among public servants and ministers? Are they tucked in at the end of the day because they have to be done or are they a priority?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

John Mason

Thanks. That is helpful. I think that you said earlier that the civil servants would not actually give advice but would lay out the options and it would then be for the minister and/or Parliament to choose. Is that how it works?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

John Mason

Yes, I get that.

On another point, you were asked earlier why the changes in the 2020 act were made. If I understand it correctly, one of the reasons was that there was too much silo working, which is something that we also have a big issue with. I realise that it is early days, but are there signs that there is less silo working and more working across Government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

John Mason

In relation to long-term planning and thinking, I am intrigued that public servants—we would call them civil servants here—are producing briefings independent of ministers. I am interested in the relationship between ministers and public servants, because we see that as a very close relationship. Here, civil servants would not really say anything that was not in line with the minister. How is that relationship different in New Zealand?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 18 April 2023

John Mason

I was asking about silos and whether that situation had improved. Diane, I was not sure whether you had finished answering that question.