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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 September 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

John Mason

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

John Mason

That is good.

The committee also looks at public sector reform. It has been suggested that there are too many public bodies and that we have a cluttered landscape. Are there too many public bodies? Is the landscape too cluttered? I put that to each of you. Obviously, your answers will reflect the sectors that you are representing.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

John Mason

You agree with Sandy Begbie.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

John Mason

Okay, so we will learn more about that in due course; that is great.

The minister wrote to me on 16 June, when I was in my temporary role as convener of the committee, and mentioned working

“on policies to support improvement in the delivery of social care support that are not reliant on the NCS legislation”.

Has the split between what we can do now and what we need the legislation to do changed—or is it in the process of changing—so that we are less reliant on the bill and could do more without it?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

John Mason

I think that it was suggested in one of the papers that we should have a discussion on tax and spending. I very much agree that we should because there has been public thinking—in Scotland and the UK—that we want lower taxes and better public services, and I feel that there is a tension there. Is it possible to have that kind of debate with the wider public sector, or even your sector?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

John Mason

Can you explain what you mean by “tax base”, for those who do not understand the term?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

John Mason

Rates going up is much more to do with inflation.

I will move on. Mr Begbie suggested that higher taxes are perhaps discouraging younger people from coming here. You also said that infrastructure here could be improved, by which I assume you mean trams, trains and things like that. How do we square that circle? The obvious way to improve infrastructure is to put more tax into it, but that puts people off. What is your thinking?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

John Mason

Let us take that example. What is preventing Edinburgh airport from expanding?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

John Mason

What is your view on the wider issue of a debate about whether we want Scotland to be a country with higher taxes and better public services or lower taxes and poorer public services?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Sustainability of Scotland’s Finances

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

John Mason

Earlier, you gave the example that your business has to deal with different councils with different rules. On the other hand, people would say that the situation in the Highlands is different from the situations in Edinburgh and Aberdeen.