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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 December 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Gordon MacDonald

Good morning. I will ask a question about finance. Finance is key to all of this in two respects: additional spend through procurement with SMEs; and access to finance for community groups and social enterprises.

There is a huge range in spend on procurement with SMEs. For NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde, that accounted for 12.5 per cent of its spend鈥攚hich I understand is partly due to the drugs bill that it has to pay for鈥攚hereas for North Ayrshire Council, the figure was 26 per cent. Should targets be set for SME spend and for local SME spend鈥攖hat is, spending with companies that are operating within the council or health board area?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Gordon MacDonald

I accept that the situation is very complicated, but if you do not set targets, what will stop organisations just paying lip service to the issue? At the moment, only eight out of 32 local authorities do community wealth building seriously, so what is there to stop an organisation just undertaking a tick-box exercise?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Gordon MacDonald

Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Gordon MacDonald

Good morning. I want to come back to Adrian Sargent for a point of clarification on the finance question. When we were in Alloa a month or so back, one of the credit unions told us that it had substantial deposits but was unable to lend to SMEs, community groups, third-sector organisations and social enterprises because of restrictions. However, I had a look online and found a legislative reform order, introduced by an amendment to the Credit Unions Act 1979, that allows credit unions to lend to those organisations. When you said that there is a need to build the skill set, who is delivering that in the sector? The legislation that I found was passed 14 years ago. Who is trying to build the skill set so that credit unions are aware that, for example, they can lend to SMEs, third-sector organisations and so on?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Gordon MacDonald

The only cap that I am aware of is that you cannot make commercial-type loans of more than 10 per cent of the total assets of the credit union.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Gordon MacDonald

So, in order to open up that financial stream to community wealth building, we have to deal with two things: that the sector is risk averse; and that it lacks skills.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Community Wealth Building (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Gordon MacDonald

Thanks very much.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Local Authority Housing Emergencies

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Gordon MacDonald

I accept that there must be a certain number of empty houses, but what is driving the demand for additional social housing? Is it family breakdowns or is it the fact that 62,000 households in Scotland are facing repossession due to mortgage costs?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Local Authority Housing Emergencies

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Gordon MacDonald

I have a quick supplementary question. I am trying to understand why there is a housing emergency. I had a look this morning and found that the National Records of Scotland highlights that there are 2.7 million dwellings in Scotland and just over 2.5 million households. That is an excess of 150,000 houses over the number of households in Scotland, according to the National Records of Scotland.

Why is there a housing emergency when we seem to have 150,000 more houses than we need? I am happy to hear from anybody. Any volunteers?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Local Authority Housing Emergencies

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Gordon MacDonald

I accept that, but the difficulty for me is that the City of Edinburgh Council declared a housing emergency when it was sitting on 1,500 empty council houses. The council has, in recent months, managed to halve that, which is a fantastic achievement, but why declare a housing emergency when it was sitting on 1,500 empty council houses?