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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Willie Rennie

The particular format that I like is getting witnesses here who might have a debate between themselves. We often get uniform panels of witnesses who are all from one part of the sector and who all say roughly the same thing, but I want to see how they test their arguments against each other. Some of the most productive sessions have been those in which they have done just that.

Some witnesses do not want to do that, because they do not want to be in the same room as somebody they disagree with. However, it is in our interest to see that exchange so that, rather than them relying on us to ask the questions, we are almost getting them to ask the questions of each other, which is of particular value.

That goes back to the role of the clerks and SPICe, and to the independence of the members. It is about how much control members will take over their committee and how much they will be led by the professionals. Those professionals know a hell of a lot, and we need to draw on that experience, but we also need to own the committee. Too often, I feel as though the standard questions to ask are just accepted and that the witnesses and the report that is produced are, likewise, just accepted. Members need to take control of the committee, otherwise it is not their committee.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I agree with Douglas Ross.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Willie Rennie

You will have seen that we are on the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee and the Education, Children and Young People Committee, and Jamie Greene is on the Public Audit Committee, but that is all that we have.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I think that the education committee is, because I am on it.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

One thing that I have learned from this process is that Graham Simpson is an excellent spokesperson. If he does not become an MSP again, he will get employment from me. [Laughter.] I thank him for explaining my amendments.

It is normal practice for landlords to invest at the point of a changeover in a tenancy. I do not want us to get to a position in which landlords decide not to invest in properties because they will not get a return on that investment, which will cause a decrease in the quality of accommodation and a lack of investment in the sector. However, I am pleased that the cabinet secretary accepts the principle at the heart of what I am trying to say. It is now on the record that she has said that, and I hope that my point is reflected in the consultation responses, the eventual response from the Government and the generation of the regulations.

It may be that there are exemptions that cover not only the periods between tenancies but all times when investment is made by the landlord in the property so that they are able to get a return on that investment. That way, we can encourage the improvement of properties rather than the opposite.

On that basis, I will not press amendment 29.

20:00  

Amendment 29, by agreement, withdrawn.

Amendment 332 moved—[Shirley-Anne Somerville].

Amendment 332A moved—[Maggie Chapman].

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

The purpose of my amendments is to drive investment and build confidence in the housing sector. My amendments 29 to 46 give two options. The first is to remove between-tenancy rent controls altogether. The second is an alternative to the first option, which would prevent rent control measures from applying between tenancies when work has been carried out on a property. I seek to do that by modifying the subsection that determines whether a property is the same or substantially the same as a property that was let under a previous tenancy by adding the qualification that that should be determined with reference to

“the extent to which the let property has been decorated or renovated since the point at which the previous tenancy ended.â€

As I said, we are trying to drive investment and build confidence, but we are also trying to prevent poor maintenance and investment in properties, which could prevent lower rents in some tenancies from rising up to the market level in advance of the introduction of this piece of legislation. If they do not, they will not be able to keep pace with the market value in future. There is a danger that that, together with some other measures, might result in landlords leaving or investors moving away from the sector.

Many other countries that have rent controls have different arrangements for the period between tenancies. My options simply go with some of the international best practice in that area.

I move amendment 29.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Your experience of the system is important. You are not irrelevant in the system. You are saying that you do not see that lack of leadership at your level, so—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Withers referenced finance, but the main thing—as Audit Scotland said—is leadership. Have you experienced any of that lack of leadership and coherence across the system?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

So you are looking for financial change, not structural change.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Andrew or Sai, do you have anything to contribute?