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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Willie Rennie

Before I come to Professor Gillespie, can you tell us what the real-life consequences of this situation are for students and staff?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Willie Rennie

You just said something interesting there, when you said that you have confidence in the sector as a whole and that provision will continue. Locally, however, there have been reports about individual institutions. I know that you will not want to go into huge detail on some of those issues, but are you indicating that some of those institutions might not survive?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Willie Rennie

I have one final question, if that is okay, convener.

Ms Watt, do you agree with Shona Struthers when she said that she has never seen a situation like this before?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 June 2024

Willie Rennie

This is partly about what the professor has just been talking about. This is not a simple solution. You are being forced down a route of taking on ever greater numbers of international students in order to subsidise domestic provision. You have talked about global shocks in individual countries. That can happen. Let us be blunt: if China invaded Taiwan, the shock to UK universities would be significant, and we would be back to square 1 with the finances.

I am slightly puzzled because the reports that I hear about the financial situation in colleges and universities are much more stark than what you have presented this morning. I am wondering why you are holding back and being more cautious than they are. This is your opportunity to tell the Government that things are stark and that, if we do not take action now, there could be real-life consequences.

We have talked about lost opportunities for the future, but my concern is what students are losing out on now. I am puzzled about why there is caution. The international student market is really important, but we cannot be overdependent on it. Tell me what is going on. I do not quite understand why there is caution.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Willie Rennie

In advance of today鈥檚 meeting, did you get an update about how things are progressing?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Willie Rennie

I am sorry that I am not able to be with you in the room this morning. I am interested in following up on Liam Kerr鈥檚 question. Audit Scotland highlighted that four colleges were at potential risk of collapse. I would like an update on those four colleges. I understand that you will not be able to name them, but can you give us an indication as to what work is being done? Also, is their future secure?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Willie Rennie

But you do not have immediate concerns that something dramatic is going to happen between now and then. If you did, you would have reported on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 June 2024

Willie Rennie

Does David Belsey have a view on this? Have you had any secret intelligence that means you can reassure us that those institutions are okay?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Technology Ecosystem Review

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Willie Rennie

Two thirds?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Technology Ecosystem Review

Meeting date: 29 May 2024

Willie Rennie

I want to follow that theme for a few minutes. Do you think that universities have the ownership of intellectual property right when it comes to spin-outs, licences and so on? Are they feeling the financial pressure to raise money for the institution, or are they setting things free to allow them to be much more beneficial to the wider economy? That is my first question.

Secondly, are you finding growth in the wider ecosystem? Basically, are graduates who have set up their own businesses staying in the area and contributing to the further development of their former institutions in an entrepreneurial way?