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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Do you think that people were afraid to challenge you?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Did you receive any complaints about your conduct when you were at the Natural Environment Research Council?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

You say that your apology is heartfelt, but you are not coming across that way and I have to say that I do not feel that. That is a matter of real regret, because I am grateful that you have come here today to be open and transparent, but let me give you some evidence for my comment. You have not watched yesterday’s evidence session and you are not prepared to pay the £150,000 pay-off back to the university. It just does not seem as though you really feel the pain that other people are going through at this time. Do you understand how angry people are about that and why they feel that you are just not showing that understanding?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

And, other than that, nothing at all.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

If you remember by the end of the meeting, will you take the opportunity to correct us? I would be grateful for that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

While the committee has been meeting this morning, the individual who complained about you at the NERC has communicated back to me. The individual says:

“THANK YOU. I did not move to another research council. I left completely and went to a university, completely broken. I lost a lot, including my final salary pension.”

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

What about when you were at the University of Leicester?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

To be honest, yesterday was quite sad, because the people who were before the committee clearly struggled with their jobs. It was notable the number of times that they said, “I wasn’t aware of that information at the time.” No one had an inquiring mind, and Peter Fotheringham in particular clearly struggled in his role, which he admitted yesterday. If you had watched the evidence, you would have seen that. Similarly, the chair did not have a financial background and she was not inquiring.

Were you not aware of the fact that your team was not up to the job? It was your job to ensure that you had a proper team around you. Were you not aware of any of that? You are passing the buck to everybody else. You say that you were not told and you were not aware, and that the fact that you did not have a grip was because other people had not told you what was happening. However, it was your job to know those things.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 26 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Or whether you were delusional. That is what I asked. Or was it something else? I just do not understand it.