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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Education (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I do not want to encourage Stephen Kerr to speak any longer—[Laughter.]—but I suggest that he is perhaps arguing for a budgetary decision, which is about capacity, rather than a legislative process.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

You still do not know what the figure is, but surely you must know whether or not Mr Yeates is right. You will have seen his evidence paper. All of this is making me believe that you are not ready for this. There is so much—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Again, you can understand our concern. Let us imagine that you put back in a relatively small amount of money—say, 50 per cent of the apprenticeship funding will be put back in with the remaining 50 per cent. It is not quite the 3 per cent that you mentioned, Mr Yeates, but we will take that. You can see, then, how the apprenticeship aspect might be dwarfed by the rest of the sector and how it might be possible to siphon off money elsewhere when the pressure is on.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Yes, but you are all about colleges and universities.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Do they see the process as a bit of a distraction?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Those people have practical, tangible experience of your organisation, and they are telling me the opposite of what you have said.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Okay.

Mr Greer made a point earlier about the Audit Scotland report—which, again, was very scathing. Do you think that that is not relevant any more?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Mr Yeates, the Withers report was pretty scathing about the SDS. I will give you a few snatches of the commentary. It refers to “competing narratives”, “duplication”, “lack of clarity”,

“lack of leadership and effective governance”,

and “harmful, false division”. A particularly critical bit is the comment that the SDS

“doesn’t always appear that it makes decisions or demonstrates behaviours which are focused first on public service delivery or the needs of learners. This dynamic is acting as a blocker for partnership working, joined-up thinking and delivery across the public sector.”

What is your response?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Did the minister ask the review group to consider the amendments? Did he not think that that would be an appropriate thing to do?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 6 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Has the minister not asked that question already?